Should Horde Players Feel Insulted By The Jaina Raid Boss?

The dungeon journal openly states “Jaina wants to waste the Horde players’ time so the Alliance army can waltz away”.

The fight itself is pretty much the same as the Lich King fight, with the addition of Jaina having her invincible flying dutchman carpet bomb the Horde until she gets bored and leaves. If the Horde casts Bloodlust, she laughs at them and iceblocks to show them how impotent they are.

The fight ends with Jaina saying “Naw, I’m not gonna die here” and teleporting to an Alliance meeting in Boralus with 100% health. There she informs the Alliance that they shouldn’t attack the Horde, cause the Horde are losers and it would just be sad to beat on them more.

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Probably not. She seems to be an advocate for peace and treating the Horde nicely once again, and considering she’s probably the most powerful mortal sorceress alive, that’s someone you shouldn’t mind advocating for you.

She’s like Baine, except awesome.

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No more than the alliance should feel insulted that thrall kill-stole Garrosh on us three expansions ago.

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I hope the feel insulted they have been pampered by blizzard far too much and for too long.
So yeah.

Anyone crazy enough to feel insulted should be and then some.

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I’ll believe that when I see her actually advocate for the Horde. Her statement about not pressing the attack on Zandalar is more about wanting the Alliance to keep its noblebright halo, to my ear.

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Perhaps. It’s certainly a departure from hissing, ‘Dismantle the Horde,’ into Varian’s ear, though.

Watching her storyline with the Kul Tiras end-questing experience, it seems Jaina has found a balance between the young and idealistic woman she was, and the warmonger she had become after Theramore’s destruction. She’ll fight for the Alliance, fight to protect it, but it seems to me that her goal is what is best for the Alliance, and that is peace, not conquest.

You can argue that her words and actions are for the benefit of the Alliance, but they also benefit the Horde.

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It was sure nice of her to kill Rastakhan for the Horde. I wonder how they will thank her?

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I mean, you guys were kind enough to reunite her with her older brother. I think that’s more than enough.

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On one hand I feel bad for the horde. But then on the other hand I remember all the time since cata feeling insulted by blizz’s storytelling. Even irl at last blizzcon some of the backhanded remarks towards alliance players. Yeah i dont really care. Boohoo.

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Jaina’s raid encounter is just one of many things we Horde players should feel insulted for…

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Pray tell what else are you feeling insulted for?

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I mean, everyone knows Frost Mages just troll you with all their slows and are the masters of kiting.

Jaina kited a whole Horde raid and then blinked out.

Seems legit.

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Ofc they should.

It’s a direct failure they’ll be reliving in the primary form of the game’s content for six months. S/DoD was a terrible idea. Whatever criticisms people want to have of Gilneas or other experienced losses, those were quest zones you quickly moved out of. It wasn’t the main form of the game’s progression for a whole patch cycle. You weren’t doing Gilneas every week for several hours for six months to level a Worgen. You did War of Thorns for one half-assed questline in a two-week prepatch event, it wasn’t a fully-developed raid.

Raids should be something you want to do. A third of S/DoD is killing your own faction, and for the Horde, the other third has little sense of victory. Mekkatorque will most likely survive, Jaina survives, the Alliance gets away.

And people are going to be playing through that every week for the next six months.

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Jaina didn’t kill Rastakhan.

Me and my murder-hobo friends did. Big difference.

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I think it’s for the best that Jaina escapes, because otherwise it’s just be a way to kick around the horde player for being such a bad person that they’d cut her down after she finally straightened out her brain problems.

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Every time a night elf character is made, you’re reminded that the ground you’re walking on will be a burnt husk when you reach max level. Every time a worgen is made, you lose your city, and then the place you go to as a refugee is burnt to the ground. No one is going to weep for the horde over a leader they just met 6ish months ago dying.

Yeah but not really. Thats not really you. That’s you seeing what the alliance did while you were fighting them off.

welcome to the alliance experience since cata. sucks, doesn’t it?

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i think that making her raid boss is a horrible mistake, is clear that they never intended her to die in any form in this xpac or even take permanent damage.

Basically blizzard tried to satisfy horde players saying “well we lost rashakan but we ALMOST killed captain jack sparrow”

only for her to be perfectly fine like 5 seconds later.

still a wasted opportunity to having her lose an eye only to have an eye patch like a pirate as a permanent reminder of the battle, yarr!

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I lol’d IRL.

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I agree 100%. I remember many MANY posts from people when it was announced she was the raid boss all saying “she’s not gonna die”.

Good to see the faction war hasn’t made the playerbase toxic and pointlessly hate filled AT ALL.

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I still have yet to understand why people want to kill Jaina so badly.

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