Should Daelin Proudmoore Be Rewritten in WC3 Remaster?

Most likely. I’d expect to see Lady’s Ashvane’s husband in some capacity too. Probably someone Rexxar and Rokhan get to kill.

This, good and evil are not binary concepts inherent to a race or culture. ‘Proving someone right’ for attempted genocide would require the orcs to be goblin slayer level of evil just by default. The orcs might have proven to be aggressive after this, but the sort of thing that would actually justify the slaughter of them down to a child? No.

Daelin was objectively in the ‘evil’ category at that moment for me, if also sympathetic.

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hell no. Daelin was a racists jerk and it needs to stay like that.

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he can be portrayed as more sympathetic as long as his actions remain the same. it could be as simple as adding a few lines about what the orcs did to his son while he fights thrall and thrall delivering a line like “his is not blackhand’s horde”

If the rewritten is to make the Horde more evil, perhaps.

I don’t think you actually can rewrite Daelin to any significant degree, to be honest, because his portrayal and death are very significant parts of Jaina’s storyline. Change him, and you run the very real risk of making her story make less sense.

For example, if he comes in totally reasonable and gets brutally killed, and Jaina just doesn’t raise a finger to protect her father, what then? Or, if she’s not there at all - how can she feel guilt at her lack of action? Too much of her story is specifically wrapped up in that event, and if they change that, they basically time paradox themselves and have to retcon Jaina from that point forward to make sure it lines up with what’s still in the game.

Then again, I also see Blizzard not having the foresight to realize this.

The only changes in WC3 Reforged should be voice acting/cinematics/visuals. Keep the story the same.

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Daelin doesn’t need to change. Remaining the same well-intentionned extremist who couldn’t forgive is what is needed for the story.

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No, he shouldn’t. The whole point of his character is him being who he is, taking the actions he took. Changing that would be completely missing the point about him and what he represents, and it’s something I’ve been arguing against since my first post in the original “Horde PC Shame Tally” thread.

Also, it would make things… complicated, to say the least, for Jaina’s character arc for starters.

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They don’t need to make him more sympathetic. The writing direction of the Horde took care of that for them.

Besides, Katherine realizing that Daelin’s hate for the Horde led to his downfall, and her realization of that allowing her to pull Jania back from the brink are major, MAJOR character progression moments for both characters.

He needs to stay hateful and determined. He’s more interesting that way.

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The alliance likes daelin. The horde doesnt like daelin. This is fine. Why does he need to be rewritten. From an alliance perspective he is a good guy. From the horde perspective he is a bad guy. This is F I N E

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Daelin works as is, at most we just need some Kul’tiran themed window dressing thrown around such as having his soldiers in Kul’tiran style armor, tidesages, and what not.

The story also works best as is since Daelin ends up creating a self fulfilling prophecy, since he’s the one who sabotaged the tentative peace the Alliance and Horde were settling in to after Mount Hyjal.

Yeah, if they make Daelin less monsterous, it just makes Jaina look worse for turning on him. Don’t see it happening.

Also, is the remake even going to have Frozen Throne content?

It’s like you can read the minds of the people writing BFA. Why write compelling characters when you can just villain bat their victims over and over?

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Daelin Proudmoore doesn’t need to be re-written.

He was and should remain a hero to the Kul Tirans. Nothing was white-washed about what he did - it was simply presented from the POV of the Kul Tirans. The only reason he appears to be more sympathetic is because his assertions for distrusting the Horde turned out to be right.

He was and should remain an antagonist to the Horde.

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Daelin Proudmoore is fine as he is. Hero to the Alliance, Antagonist to the Horde. There honestly should be more characters on the Alliance just like him, who view pursuing peace with the Horde as a mistake and would rather just kill them all.

In fact, there are a few characters on the Alliance who are like that. It’s just that Blizzard keeps botching the chance to give those characters development time.

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The most they’ll likely, or can do really, is show that he has a good reason to hate the Horde, believe Jaina is in actual danger, probably name drop Daelin once or twice ect.

I doubt we’ll get a scene of him saving a group of orc babies to show how much a great guy he is, but we could be given context as to A) Why he hates the Horde so much and B) why the Kul Tiras still see him as a hero.

If they rewrite his entire character, that would be odd considering the goal was to bring WC3 more in line with WoW, and WoW still went ahead and showed that he was a jerk who got himself killed.

And you wouldn’t call that making him more sympathetic? Because I would–especially the part about him believing Jaina is in danger.

Maybe I’m misreading “rewritten” as “retcon”. In that case, yes they will rewrite him to be more sympathetic to get it more in line with WoW.

Anything more however, I believe will be unlikely.

The part about him believing Jaina was in danger isn’t a retcon though. He went out to look for her and also to look for the Orcs who had murdered the guards at Southshore and stolen their ships.