I respect your willingness to try and get him to understand his own hypocrisy. That said, you’re literally wasting your time. He cannot even play the spec well, yet he thinks he has the wherewithal to understand development level changes. Any semi-coherent person inherently understands that if you increase evoker range, there will be a balance tradeoff, i.e., hover time will be reduced. Then there is this guy…
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More personal attacks tied with more blanket statements about what “everyone knows.”
“Everyone knows” what Blizzard will do but me.
What I don’t know is what Blizzard has planned. What I do know is what’s been requested.
Yes, it’s almost like the game has an almost 20-year history to look back on and see how these decisions played out previously…
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This says it all right here, I guess.
I clearly pointed out how he’s weaponizing the forum when it suits him and calling it fear mongering when it doesn’t and he’s not even recognizing that hypocrisy when it’s spelled out with his OWN quotes.
Like whether or not he struggles to play/understand the spec is an aggrevating factor, but the worst part is the twisting of everyone’s words to either suit him or vilify them.
It’s completely disingenuous and to anyone capable of seeing through it, completely invalidates anything he says.
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My brother, you’ve already claimed that you know what they’ll do, lol.
You’re straying off topic again. This is a pretty bad habit for trolls, so lets drag it back on course, shall we. You asked me why I thought there would NOT be changes IF they granted greater range (something that I’ve already stated elsewhere that seems less likely as they seem to be reaching for alternative solutions, but lets play it out) now show tell me why you think with such mathematical certainty, as suggested by such statements as,
and
That there would be nerfs to, as generally agreed, Hover.
I keep seeing such comments as “data-driven” and “logically” but it’s all just arbitrary theory, isn’t it? If you have no comments from developers about this specific subject, only what other players have commented?
And that’s where I derive the term forum-instilled terror, because you make it sound as if asking for change should be something players fear doing by giving such fierce pushback, and that I will never accept. There may be changes tied to greater range, but I doubt A: that they will be as bad as suggested and B: that it will be to such a key element to gameplay mechanic as hover.
Because, as OP said, shorter range doesn’t really make sense. It works, yes, but there is no reason for it to be so short.
There’s also no reason why a rogue with daggers has more range than a warrior with 2h weapons. It’s an arbitrary detail, part of the design flavor. If you don’t like it, there are tons of other options–other people do like it.
It not only works, it works WELL. That’s the tl:dr.
I fully support people not liking the range.
Saying it’s “not working” or a “failed experiment” is incorrect, misleading, and wholly disingenuous.
It’s okay not to like something. It’s not okay to say it’s not working when it is. THAT is “instilled terror”, and you refuse to see that because of your self-proclaimed stubbornness.
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This this this this this.
Troll. This is why I have you on ignore.
You have him on ignore for being accepting of people not liking the spec but not them spreading misinformation?
Nothing in that post is even phrased in a divisive manner, lol.
You’re starting to look more delusional than stubborn.
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HAHAHAHHAHAA.
Go read his post history, then I’d like an apology.
Don’t paraphrase me in a way that suits you. That wasn’t what I said and I’m only referring to one post that was more than a fair post.
You’re spiraling.
He directly lied about what I said, and I presented proof of that fact. Seemed pretty derisive to me. Trolls gonna troll, I guess.
You need to take a break from the forums.
You’re seeing ghosts everywhere and are completely incapable of being open-minded and learning from anyone else’s experience or opinions.
I’ve had my share of your blind hypocrisy for a lifetime. Enjoy the 25yds!
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Better to ask how adding range without changing anything else would be a worse idea than adding range but gimping movement in exchange.
We lose one of the unique things about evoker.
They could very well add range without overpowering us because tuning isn’t perfect.
Just as they could give all the melee specs 40 yard range without them being overpowered because tuning isn’t perfect.
BM hunter should never be at the top.
Hmm, not really. I don’t insult other’s views, the players themselves, or how they respond to others. That’s all you.
I do like how evoker is unique, but it is certainly unique in more ways than merely their range, and other aspects of evoker generally have positive reviews. There’s really just this one thing that keeps bothering people.
Where are these positive reviews?
Aug is destroying the game and should be deleted (as some claim.)
Dracthyr aren’t even dragons.
Empowers suck.
You can’t claim there are positive aspects just because you choose to ignore the negative complaints about those same aspects.
Like everything about this class has been complained about in some form.
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His entire platform is to embrace any themes that support him as “most people want this” and turn anything that doesn’t support him on here as “instilled terror”.
This guy clearly took his logical argumentation approach from the popular politicians of today.
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The negative complaints are generally from players who expected one thing but got another, like Aug not being a tank, or evoker having an identity crisis (which is actually lore focused cannon). I haven’t seen anyone complain about empower since they fixed the issues it had when it sometimes dry fired (that was annoying). Aug is actually much better balanced now, too. It’s only real problem is that it’s still pretty incapable on its own.
In short, those complaints are pretty superficial OR they’ve actually been addressed. Except for range.