Having starting zones resembling concerts for the Rolling Stones would not be faithful to the original game. Sharding will help reduce that.
I am also curious as to how sharding will actually make the game feel different.
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Calling for no sharding whatsoever is fine. Sharding is detrimental to the game in the long term. However, if you are one of the people who call for no sharding at all, not even for the first couple days or just the starter zonesā¦ you better not be one of those people calling for more than a 2500 person server cap as well.
Vanilla wow was designed around system constraints back in the day. However, just because those constraints are lifted now, does not mean that the game design will suddenly support 8k populations. And if you think sitting in Northshire abbey or Durotar etc with 2000 people isnāt going to be a problem, I have the cure to cancer here, $20 a treatmentā¦ wanna buy some?
Because only a small percentage will get past 20. If you cap servers at 10,000, even if 20-30% get past 20, it wonāt be an overloaded server. If you see a conversion rate of more than about 5 or 10% starting to get past 20, add more servers immediately. That way by the time the server is at a medium āpast 20ā population, new players will be already diverted to new locations.
I already have a fear that Blizzard will launch with too few servers. 10 is far too little, 30 maybe too little as well. But when 2-5 million people descend on the servers, and only 500k remain afterwards, a server capped at 3k, with that same adjustment, will have between 300 and 750 active players. Thatās a low to dying server population.
You canāt use the same techniques from Vanilla alone because the same population graph from Vanilla will not occur. Hell, Iām probably being optimistic about the residual playerbase. Some people have emphatically said that no more than 25k people will continue past the initial wave.
YOU were the one that said new servers should be added only if more than a trickle make it past 20.
Since you are talking about adding new servers to which new players will be diverted, then there must be more than a trickle making it past 20. This means that those servers with more than a trickle making it past 20 are in all likelihood overcrowded.
How does diverting new players to new servers help those servers that are already overcrowded with more than a trickle making it past 20?
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If they go with no sharding, it wonāt matter in the long run, as the majority of what would have been the resitual population will quit because either they got sick of waiting 4 days in a queue only to be disconnected, or Blizzard added too many servers and now every server has a population of 300.
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Sharding is garbage and we all know it. Nobody wants it and itās been discussed to death already. Search feature mon amis, itās there.
Sharding is putting gameplay first. Sitting in a multi-hour queue (as I did many times on Illidan over the years), or waiting as 100 people try to tag the same named mob is not good gameplay. Sitting in a multi-hour queue I suppose was an authentic vanilla experience, but something Iād like to see done better this time around.
Also, I couldnāt care less if itās temporary or not. It will only come into play when thereās extreme numbers of people in certain crowded zones. When itās less crowded and not needed it automatically wonāt be happening. If 10,000 gnomes decide to roll at the same time because some streamer thought it was a good idea a year into Classic, then sharding SHOULD come back on. It needs no time-specific limitation. Use it when itās absolutely necessary, which is not the same as live WoW at all where shards are sparsely populated and actively try to keep specific faction balances on PvP shards and mix people xserver and frequently toss you into another shard in the middle of doing something.
I wonāt even care when it inevitably comes into play occasionally in say Blackrock Mountain when thereās 1,000+ people on the same server going to MC/BWL at the same time. I had 40v40 guild clashes in BRM in Vanilla, but I certainly never saw several hundred people or 1k+ all in BRM at the same time. Iād much rather have higher population caps with sharding when absolutely necessary than garbage level population caps that result in 10x as many dead servers with nobody to play with a few months in.
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Ugh. This is such a bloated and unnecessary post. No one cares. And making parts of your own post bold doesnāt make it any more interesting or valid.
[citation needed]
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[Implication that Iām not accurately portraying the opinion of the community at large not needed]?
Semantics, look it up.
You said ānobodyā. That is inaccurate. You speak for no one but yourself. If you are trying to, youāre being pretentious (look it up.)
Your statement should read that you donāt want sharding. You donāt speak for any community āat largeā.
But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.
I think itās more fair to say a majority of people donāt like it or are against it. But are willing to tolerate it, if itās removed within the first few weeks for limited to 1-9 zones.
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This I would agree with wholeheartedly (itās also where Iām at on the subject.) And of course, you have the extremists on both sides.
Give me a break. āNobodyā echoes most of what I read on the subject on the WoW forums. If you want to play language police and argue semantics (look it up) thatās fine.
Launch and starter zones, fine here watch my Iām going to do it again, I think everyone (see how I substituted a generality for whatās commonly accepted to mean most people) agrees this isnāt the worst idea in the world. A necessary evil if you will. Everywhere else, bad for the game and the experience if weāre recreating Vanilla as a goal.
Nobody who cares about Classic wants it. However, people who can see past their own nose, and care about Classic, know that we need it for the launch period.
Inaccurate, but thatās ok.
This however, would seem to be correct.
And neither do you. Stop pretending you speak for everyone.
The petition was for legacy servers - NOT for legacy servers with modern sharding and convenience features.
Not sure what petitioned you signed, but I signed up for legacy servers.
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To be clear, weāre not getting āmodern shardingā as it is implemented in retail. Weāre getting a modified version that only applies to a small subset of zones to handle a short term problem at the start of the gameās launch.
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And to add to that, many people, especially those arguing for no sharding, donāt even know they extent of what sharding is and have constantly been confusing it with both cross realm zones and phasing.
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Blizzard has never said sharding will be removed from Classic WoW.
We need a Blue Post on this topic ASAP.