thats your problem right there, you assume any and all of the complaining will be from current players who along with everyone else who pays a sub gets access the Classic.
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Yes, I assume any of the complaining will come from current players. The forums already prove that, since one person qualifies that stance. All? No. There will be plenty of other people asking for sharding to be extended. But since when have players known what they want? Just look at General forums. Players whine and complain every day for things they then turn around and ask for in Classic. There is a disconnect in logic that is staggering.
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I’m not pro-sharding but what exactly are they fear mongering? And why would they need to fear monger if they are getting what they want?
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The thousands of posts about server queues, lag, crashes, instability, and how sharding will magically fix all that.
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Which is where you are 100% wrong, the forums prove nothing, in fact they actually defeat that by having people complain back in Vanilla!
I just want stable servers, something we did not have in Vanilla launch with a fraction of the rush we will get.
My bad just saw you said not all, doesnt change they wont be the only ones complaining if we have unplayable lag/server crashes or extended downtime like we had in Vanilla.
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Again, you’re assuming unplayable lag/server crashes. Or even server queues. All assumptions based on nothing but fear. That’s not why Ion said they’re considering sharding. That’s an invention made on these forums.
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Except that fear mongering is based off of stuff that has and does actually happen and this fear mongering is based off of a post that doesn’t specifically say ‘starting areas’ even though it has already been said before.
Great comparison as always Mogar.
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That’s based on history and facts and what blizzard actually said as to their reason why they are adding sharding. What?
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Yet you ignore the history and facts about what sharding does the community.
Do you still not see the hypocrisy?
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fix? no, help with? well yah it has helped, but if if they can pull it off without, even better.
Lol no, I actually played in Vanilla, and we had all of those, so its based on experience and what actually happened, you think Classic could survive a horrible launch and/or a repeat of the failure of the AQ event?
and no that is not all of what he said, he also said they do not want to repeat the launch it had too.
No the invention is that sharding is just so people dont have to group up
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well lets just hope the servers can handle more than everyone thinks and have no issue so we don;t have to have sharding at all.
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Mark Kern said the servers held up fine. It was a back-end issue that caused problems. So enough of this crashing, lag, instability nonsense. It’s a strawman.
The history of what it does to the community at max level and when it is implemented permanently? Sure. Is this the case for classic. No. Once again great comparison by you Mogar
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lol no it is not nonsense, would you like me the show you all the credits I have in that first 2 years due to server problems? Should I play for you the part of the LFG documentary where they talk about the AQ event, i suppose all the people who talk about how the servers constantly crashed that night, rolled back and had pockets of horrible lag are just ‘strawmanning’ or making things up?
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Mark Kern left blizzard 13 years ago, you think he has any idea what should be the plan for classic based on how much has changed?
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Let me give you my impressions from the Demo. So, I logged in and ran around. My first thought was…“Where is everyone?” Yeah, there were people around, but not a huge amount like I expected. Blizz did stagger and limit who could play and for how long. I was on server 1, which I assume probably had a majority of players. Still, it seemed odd.
Then my hour was used up, I got logged out and I started watching streams and vids. And then I saw the sharding. And my enthusiasm dropped to the floor. When I got back in all I saw was lost potential. Any time I was questing I was thinking, “Who’s here, but not really here? Who could I be grouping with that I can’t seven see.” Etc, etc. It tarnished my experience. Is that a game problem, or a me problem? I guess that’s the question.
What I know is that I’m not going through Classic constantly wondering on what I’m missing out on. And to those saying you don’t forge friendships right out of the gate…I feel sorry for you. Hell, I still have friends from kindergarten I keep in touch with and that was 35 years ago.
Like I said earlier…this issue is the key indicator to me. Is the game about community, social interaction, authenticity. Or do those aspects get set aside on occasion in favor of convenience.
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Sigh JFC
I 100% agree, i look at the launch as I did the AQ event or any expac launch, though I think the pent up anticipation will put it on another level(i hope) and I don’t think it could survive a bad launch with the server issues we have had in the past.
its not about convenience its about actually being able to play without server problems or massive queues, though I am pretty sure people would be ok with queues over sharding, which is the boat I am in as to what I prefer, like i said , I just want stable servers.
Honestly, I don’t think a ‘bad launch’ in that regard is that big a deal. BfA players will go play that game until the population sorts itself out. They’re still paying regardless.
The team lead from Vanilla WoW said the servers weren’t the issue. I don’t know what else to say. ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
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WoW’s launch had 100,000 people with like 2.5k cap on servers. Classic is increasing the cap of the servers in order to deal with tourists. More people, bigger cap sizes. Apples and oranges. How do you not understand this.
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