Sharding in classic is GAME BREAKING

Tuathaa-wyrmrest-accord · January 11, 2019, 9:26pm

My only point is that blizzard has never stated what they were going to shard and what they are considering a starting area.
Something you blatantly refuse to acknowledge

Tailwynd-elune · January 11, 2019, 9:27pm

:hands Piddy a riot gear:

Oldallagala-frostwolf · January 11, 2019, 9:29pm

I acknowledge that. And some people are suggesting that they could see starting area as the barrens or westfall, which is incorrect. I acknowledge it could mean anywhere from 1-10. But that’s where it ends. I guess if you want to see it as subjective then it’s subjective in that range. Suggesting that they could mean the barrens could be considered a starting area is nonsense.

You know this, and I know this, but you guys seem to like to grasp at straws in order to show us just how ‘bad’ blizzard could make this sharding thing.

Piddy-uther · January 11, 2019, 9:31pm

Thank Tailwynd!

@Piddy dons said gear, cinches it up tight and hunkers behind the shield.

Tuathaa-wyrmrest-accord · January 11, 2019, 10:56pm

I appreciate the clarification on your stance.

With out knowing what blizzard is or isnt going to consider a starting area is the mystery.
My personal opinion is, if they insitst on doing it then it should be limited to the starting areas only not the zone the starting area is in

Raphya-emerald-dream · January 12, 2019, 5:11pm

I am against sharding too, however I’d play with sharding too.
Yes, I know the game at launch at will be collapsed, and we will have to struggle to level. But at the same time that’s going to be memorable, that new game experience, seeing everybody playing. Being able to talk to hundreds of hyped people would be awesome. Easy to make friends too.
I don’t want to miss that “HOLY **** look at all these people” experience. Heading straight to killing wolves with a few more guys in the area would by no means be memorable, I want it to be memorable.

Zavis-greymane · January 12, 2019, 5:14pm

I thought sharding was something that happened when you’re drunk and passed out?

Optîmuskrayt-tichondrius · January 16, 2019, 6:07am

Because of server community. Running around in classic you ran into the same people in the world constantly.

Battlegrounds youll see same people over and over, you develop reputations. say you just lost a 1v1 in a bg and then youre running past south shore and you see the same person that just killed you, rivalry… rivalry was huge in classic. You start sharding and it will kill it for me. I would just stick to retail

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anon33533570 · January 16, 2019, 6:22am

Because you don’t supply servers for the initial rush of release, you’d just end up with unused servers 3 months later.

anon33533570 · January 16, 2019, 6:22am

My reputation was making losing premades for quick marks.

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · January 16, 2019, 6:27am

That’s easy. K guys just don’t leave the base.

Fesz-cenarius · January 16, 2019, 6:32am

“Hey guys. We can get rewarded for doing nothing, so why even try? Just sit back, do nothing and collect those rewards.”

Moonblade-hyjal · January 16, 2019, 7:46am

Fesz:

Tailwynd:

Fesz:

No more prissy than expecting Blizzard to cater to the retail tourists and those who are only concerned with their own convenience and who Blizzard acknowledges will likely abandon the game.

See, but you’re generalizing… because I’ve seen plenty of people who have been clamoring for Classic before Classic was announced, who SINCE launch, don’t think sharding (for the limited time as represented above, in the ascribed manner) is that bad. In short – not just “retailers”.

Not everyone agrees, so this is not just “retail tourists” only – in fact, it seems rather petulant and childish to keep throwing that term around. You aren’t better than anyone else here, so I don’t know who you think that kind of talk is impressing.

We have a group of hundreds of thousands who have, for ever a decade, been requesting a truer Classic experience.

There is a group of players that even Blizzard refers to as tourists. A good portion of this group is players that are only concerned with their own convenience and have an instant (figure of speech, not literally “instant”) gratification, convenience oriented mindset. Most of this group are retail players. Much of this group see all those other players in an MMO as nothing but obstacles in their way and expects Blizzard to remove those obstacles in Classic as Blizzard has done in retail.

Now, even Blizzard admits that a large portion of the tourists are going to abandon the game. Why should the first group that has been requesting, for over a decade, have to “suffer” (see server populations artificially segregated) in order for Blizzard to try to cater to people they don;t even expect to play long term, that they expect to simply abandon the game?

100% true. and from a logical stand point, it explains why blizzard is going the sharding route at launch.

a temp solution to those tourists, is better than long term stability (servers).

yes, they will come in, poke around and hate it and then abandon it at the drop of a hat (as well as any guild they joined). what would be the benefit in supplying more servers that will be left dead? dont get me wrong, i HATE the fact that this is being done but i give SOME leeway, only because it is temp. if it goes ANY further- i quit, point blank.

Delithre-bronzebeard · January 16, 2019, 9:21am

I personally don’t want sharding and I think there’s a better solution than that…

Why not just group up so your very likely to get quests done faster at launch? Or if something needs to be changed to handle pop caps, why not decrease the server cap for a few days or add a little more servers in? I may not come up with the best solutions and what I laid down may not be the best options but I do know there is a better way to handle launch than sharding.

Either way I won’t be upset and still play. As long as sharding is not permanent, and if so, at the very least keep it in the starter zones

Cipherr-stormrage · January 16, 2019, 9:39am

Yep. I cant really get behind these 15 paragraph short stories/fan fiction that people keep coming up with about how “Blizz is going to break their word and do THIS”. It all reeks of people overreacting.

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · January 16, 2019, 10:25am

i mean they already broke there word with regards to sharding and classic once.

Shaalok-emerald-dream · January 16, 2019, 10:55am

I find it very hard to believe there won’t be sharding. The new standard for developing software, is to distribute the load across multiple servers dynamically, as needed. A lot of software is now built that way, it accomplishes multiple good things: scalability, cost. It’s often cheaper to use several inexpensive computers than one expensive one. Another thing about this type of development, is since it is where software development field is moving, good developers who want to maintain their skill level, will simply move away from a company that tells them to develop monolithic applications - ones that scale with hardware.

Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel · January 16, 2019, 12:03pm

the mere fact that you would even use something like sharding on an mmo is disgusting.
“hey we got this game that is all about having multitudes of people out in the game world interacting with other, we integrated this neat tech that splits them apart”.

Ziryus-doomhammer · January 16, 2019, 12:17pm

Matcauthon:

Shaalok:

I find it very hard to believe there won’t be sharding. The new standard for developing software, is to distribute the load across multiple servers dynamically, as needed. A lot of software is now built that way, it accomplishes multiple good things: scalability, cost. It’s often cheaper to use several inexpensive computers than one expensive one. Another thing about this type of development, is since it is where software development field is moving, good developers who want to maintain their skill level, will simply move away from a company that tells them to develop monolithic applications - ones that scale with hardware.

the mere fact that you would even use something like sharding on an mmo is disgusting.
“hey we got this game that is all about having multitudes of people out in the game world interacting with other, we integrated this neat tech that splits them apart”.

Yeah it’s a shame MMO’s ever decided to create more than 1 server, you know that evil tech that splits up the population.

Moonblade-hyjal · January 16, 2019, 12:21pm

Ziryus:

Matcauthon:

Shaalok:

I find it very hard to believe there won’t be sharding. The new standard for developing software, is to distribute the load across multiple servers dynamically, as needed. A lot of software is now built that way, it accomplishes multiple good things: scalability, cost. It’s often cheaper to use several inexpensive computers than one expensive one. Another thing about this type of development, is since it is where software development field is moving, good developers who want to maintain their skill level, will simply move away from a company that tells them to develop monolithic applications - ones that scale with hardware.

the mere fact that you would even use something like sharding on an mmo is disgusting.
“hey we got this game that is all about having multitudes of people out in the game world interacting with other, we integrated this neat tech that splits them apart”.

Yeah it’s a shame MMO’s ever decided to create more than 1 server, you know that evil tech that splits up the population.

how is that even remotely the same thing?

is there no retail/pro changer that has any common knowledge, let alone common sense?