It was the best way for me to express my pov on it. Political interests aside, it’s accurate. You can sit there and scribble a leftist mimic of it that still proves me initial point. Stand strong, don’t show weakness.
I wasn’t really asking the question because I didn’t know I just wanted him to point out the aspects of how it’s bad so I can tell him how ques literally do the exact same thing but worse.
As for THIS concern, this isn’t an issue with sharding itself. If blizzard said they will not use sharding after launch, and they use it, that decision will be made whether it was on during launch or not. Sharding at launch doesn’t cause sharding later, this would just be a decision made by blizzard, a terrible one at that which would ruin classic WoW and would 100% be a total lie on blizzard’s part.
What gives you the idea they will do anything the forum posters want? If they want sharding they will keep sharding. They won’t lie. They will spin and PR manage for days, but they won’t lie.
they already said the design goal of classic was no sharding. we’ve already moved to sharding at launch.
they move it further and they prove just how good their word is (hint, it isn’t).
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Accepting defeat doesn’t lead to further losses later.
If only you could sit down and have a conversation with the 100 million souls of the past who where part of a nation that accepted defeat and lost and they lost more than just the war. Weak.
and it is because of people who are pro sharding that i continue to make my voice heard. and will continue to until it is removed.
i don’t want sharding in classic at all, it is anti vanilla, it is anti mmo.
i understand why it is being used for launch, and even agree it is logical, however i do not have to be, nor will i ever be, happy about it.
therefore i plan to make sure it is known that sharding IS NOT WELCOME.
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You can take that as hard set statements of what is to come. Or, you can acknowledge they are telling us what they are thinking but what we get may not be exactly within that line of thinking.
They never give a definitive “here is the design documents” type statement. For good reason.
Just gonna rile more ppl up.
Honestly is anyone actually FOR unlimited, permanent sharding??
Like yeah it sucks that it’s needed at all, but it is where we are at right now. People arent going to agree on the alternative either, it seems. And frankly, the situation is a new one - there’s no successful history here to point to how to approach classic launch.
Just have to make blizz aware it’s important that it actually comes off, goes away, and never returns, imho.
actually they did. in an interview they said “a design goal of classic is no sharding. we understand the players don’t want it and don’t like it”.
yes. there is. they are in the minority, but there is people who actually want permanent sharding in vanilla.
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Blizzard is. It’s cheaper. They need to invest and maintain physical servers to allow for a real vanilla experience. Or they need to heavily increase bandwith and size of the cloud system wow is currently on. They already have lag problems with 40v40 pvp. I can imagine they are extremely unhappy about having to support massive 200v200 pvp.
Honestly… it has a lot of similarities to chemo and cancer treatment. Sharding is being used as a tool for launch to make sure the population stays healthy in the long run.
No, it isn’t. If this were the case then accepting bnet integration is accepting xmog. This is not a black and white topic, there is a grey area and we have to find that area that works best and makes the most sense and run with it. Which is sharding and launch and then never again.
Man you really don’t understand anything you’re saying do you lol
Putting your foot down on something like this makes me assume you are an expert in this area and you know what is actually best to keep populations and classic healthy. Do you? I’m going to guess no.
So like a child. You’re a child. Gotcha. Let me know when you grow up so we can have a mature conversation about how the world actually works.
You know nothing about being a man if you are never accepting of another point of view because you have ‘your foot down’ or if you can’t even accept that something will help the community for the long term just because you think it’s icky. Being a man is the exact opposite to this, this is being a child.
It works out great when you compromise. If something is inherently bad then yeah, you should fight against it. But if it has it’s benefits to you and your community then you should try to educate yourself and see how it’s best for the community.
(Like the legalization of mary jane)
If everyone was a ‘man’ about it and put their foot down, then Colorado’s schools wouldn’t be swimming in money right now while put dealers had to go out and get real jobs.
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The alternative is no sharding
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No it doesn’t. If you want to grow up you need to realize this isn’t how anything works. Ever. I surely hope your parents didn’t teach you this, as that would be quite the embarrassment.
You find the best solution that is good for both sides and you go for it.
That’s because they made changes for the worse that didn’t benefit anyone. They slowly gave up freedoms and were okay with it. Sharding isn’t genocide here my dude. Quit acting like you’re so educated about politics you clearly are not lol.
There’s probably some people that are. There’s probably some people that just don’t care, I’m mostly one of them. I’d prefer packed servers without sharding but my main interest is in BG’s, dungeons and raids in Classic. I want to grind out Tier sets that take months to complete, I want to watch our tank get Thunderfury after a year or more of clearing MC.
All i see is weakness and complacency. You will get walked in in life, always in third place.
You read that as settled, no room for different outcome, impossible to have an alternate result?
The design goal is a guild line, a strategy. Other goals can and will superseded.
They did not say anything definitive. Even if you assume they did
If I get sharded in Classic I’ll shard myself in real life
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My life is very well established young one you don’t need to worry about me =D
And it was all done through hardwork and compromise.
Not moving your ground on subjects is how you end up with racism, sexism, cousin marriage, and workin at mcdonalds to buy your whiskey to drink yourself to sleep.
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okay. feel free to have them permanently shard. and watch as tehy bleed subs to high hell after telling everyone classic wouldn’t have permanent sharding, and get people all excited about that.
that doesn’t sound like a HUGE PR nightmare for a company that is already in the spotlight for-
- firing a bunch of people after having a year of record profits
- put out arguably the worst expansion ever and had to do a bunch of refunds due to false advertising
- and had the whole diablo immortal debacle.