Shamans currently have too few races available, and I’d really love to see night elf or even human shamans. By this point, it makes sense that other races would have learned how to be shamans lore-wise. So why can’t we play any race with any class? xD
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Yes! All I want is Mechagnome Shaman! I’m tired of the whole “no because lore” argument. Blizz has done plenty of things disregarding lore. Plus how does a Mechagnome Lock or Mage make less sense than a Shaman??? Get it done blizz!
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Nah, they should start deleting classes that aren’t culturally compliant. Make the cultures of Azeroth matter again.
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mechagnome shaman could be pretty cool with mechanical totems
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For spirits’ sake, how many times does it have to be said…
Blizzard has already said that they intend to open up the remaining classes (minus possibly evoker and demon hunter) to all races, they just don’t have a time frame on when they’re going to get to it because all the remaining classes have race-specific art assets that need to be created.
you’re 100% right and i’m sure we all know that they’re going to at some point but we can also still talk about how cool some races could be for shaman!
Eh… I’m very much not a fan of the universal race/class unlocks beyond a select few classes like warrior and hunter. Race/class restrictions added a lot of flavor to each race’s culture and each class’s identity, and made those combinations feel more important and impactful.
Certainly there were combinations I wanted added, but I was a much bigger fan of the Cataclysm approach of adding specific, targeted combinations that came with fresh lore to support them, expanding the culture and identity like the addition of tauren “Sunwalker” paladins introducing sun worship into tauren culture and alternative interpretations of Light worship to paladins. Just taking the restrictions off and saying, “have at it,” does the opposite. It makes cultural identity feel irrelevant and flattens out class identity into a homogeneous glob the same way Legion halls flattened classes into a single interpretation.
There really aren’t any races I would be inclined to expand shaman to based on currently existing lore.
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So what, they say a lot of things. Just think about how long it took for blizz to update Ascendance models, and how long it too to update any lock/mage visual.
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Im ok with some classes/races opening. Sometimes it may not make sense like in druids case. I know shaman is very lacking for options on alliance though. It’s what? dwarf, fat human, panda or goat.
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Dracthyr shaman would be cool - dragon totems!
That said, druid and demon hunter are most in need of new races.
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It makes ZERO sense to have an undead Druid but not open Demon Hunters abs evokers to other races.
Devs also stated that they aren’t currently working on any more class/race combos. We’re not seeing more any time soon. Probably because they are working on more allied races.
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I think the current set back is the racial specific totem assets not lore. As Blizz is slowly unlocking everything to every race.
But I do hope they do a big push on making those assets to make it happen.
Wish with my heart and soul you guys would stop asking for this awful bullcrap.
Oh no blood elf doesn’t have all the classes!
think for a second, a shaman is someone in bones and animal fur and primal magics.
What is the aesthetic of a gnome shaman? or a blood elf shaman? Considering those are by and large urbanized races. Mage and warlock and by extentsion priest make sense for everyone to be.
Not understand how everyone can be a warlock to me, says you have very little experience on the actual definition of a warlock is, do you think blizzard invented warlock?
a warlock is simply someone that is in pacts with their chosen power, they make deals usually through contracts or pacts and study, why would a mechagnome not be able to do that?
A mage, is someone who is a scholar most of the time or have natural affinity towards using magic and then are “classically” trained. and that’s pretty much true across all fantasy and WoW.
It doesn’t make sense for everyone to be druids and shamans because it’s not a job or a profession it pretty much a religion. It’s why when you go to new york city in real life you don’t run into “shamans” but if you were in the southwest united states on a native American reservation you’d actually might meet someone who calls themselves a SHAMAN.
Druids and shamans aren’t just doing rituals it’s a full religion with rites and passages ect, we saw this in classic WoW. if you need to ask “well… then why can’t someone just join being a shaman?” Just simply look at our own world, do you want to be a shaman? or are you happy with your life right now. So why would it be ANY different from a blood elf perspective to want to be a shaman? You can’t not have an addiction to video games and smart phone usage so why would you go on a spiritual journey that many “real” shamans have to go through?
Just look at to our real world.
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Funny its always alliance shamans askinf for more shamans and horde pallies asking for more pallys i wonder why lol
I say no more race & class combos… maghar lightforged & pandaren warlocks just shouldn’t exist but they do.
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Yes but let’s look at D&D and any ROG system you can usually make any race/class combo. Why can’t it be up to the player to justify why their feral blood elf that learned to commune with the elements from their Tauren teacher that they have been aligned with for over a decade?
I mean gatekeeping race/classes for lore seems silly at this point in the story. Especially when a player can justify most of them with personal story!
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Once you start picking apart the whys of classes, races, and societies in a fantasy setting it doesn’t stop. Does it make sense that a warrior can use elemental or arcane magic from a trinket yet have no grasp of the concepts to apply to their regular abilities? Suddenly classes make no sense. You are playing an RPG, you need to accept the roles of each of these aspects of the game/world. A Tauren player character wasn’t able to be a warlock previously not because Tauren in general can’t be warlocks but because warlocks don’t play any role in Tauren society and was thus not reflected in choice of roles the player could choose from when deciding to play the part of someone from said society.
It’s really lame that they gave up on this in favor of making the pc an exception to the roles.
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My take is, for those that say it doesn’t make sense
You know how long these classes have lived relatively in “peace” with each other?
Why is it an odd take to think races could pick up the life styles, beliefs, ECT of others after all this time?
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It’s a difference of scale. Player characters in a tabletop game are inherently standouts to the rest of the world’s population by virtue of being the only real people in the game world. We inherently recognize them as exceptional and above the normal standards of their race or culture.
But player characters in an MMO are so numerous that they themselves play a role in shaping our perception of that game world. It’s hard to give races a clear identity when you have hundreds of thousands of PCs running around playing a combination that stomps on what the story is trying to convey.