The amount of people getting bent over this video is staggering. Pretty sure most of you donât even enjoy life at all.
Meanwhile some guild posts that they cleared kara in 20 minutes and the forums be like âOMG THATS COOLEST THING IVE EVER SEEN!!â
They are literally playing the game on hard mode by using a shaman as a tank. None of you are even willing to try something like that because you are so obsessed with min maxing the game into easy mode so you can burn through your raids and go back to seething on the forums.
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How does my pally not being able to hold treat make me bad? Iâm full p1 bis with consumes I need to hold back, now imagine a shamen? Iâd parse Greyâs
would be dope if it became a thing
Nobody cares. You are bis in the easiest raid tier in the expansion. Its like bragging that you can swim across a kiddie pool while holding your breath. The fact that you are using consumables to clear only makes what you said even more laughable. We cleared pre nerf BT and Sunwell with just flasks back in the day.
If you didnât have wowhead and youtube to tell you what to do you would probably still be wiping on normal shadow labyrinth.
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Imagine bragging about ripping threat of your tank.
No one thinks youâre cool lol.
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No doubt. Willing to bet they are shadowbolt spam specc too. So they are literally bragging about knowing when to start pressing 1 over and over.
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Learn to read I said âifâ I didnât hold back.
It isnât a lack of efficiency, it is the luck required to do it successfully. Youâll notice that on Prince for example that he took 6k+ Crushing Blows⊠which means the only reason he didnât explode outright in Phase 2 is because he managed to RNG out of getting 4-hits back-to-back. The reason Druids take the longest (potentially) to be appropriately geared to Tank Prince is because we can still get Crushing Blows, so our EH needs to be dialed up a lot to ensure survival if RNG doesnât favor us. Iâve been on the receiving end of 3 back-to-back-to-back Crushing Blows and then a normal and died during Phase 2, but that was Week 1 or Week 2 while I still had a lot of questing greens and no real upgrades.
Tanks are expected to guarantee non-RNG related survival. This Shaman lucked out through Prince and Nightbane. If he were to try this next week, he very well could get flattened multiple times with or without pro healing to support him. So as this video shows, with sufficient luck a Shaman can eventually kill every boss in Karazhan while âTankingâ, but the Shaman cannot actually stand on their own to do so like actual Tanks.
EDIT: People are free to do as they want, but Iâm not going to call something Tanking that isnât.
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So they didnât have a tank for Prince?
So Druids werenât real tanks until they had gear?
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Correct.
Correct, this includes ALL classes though. A Warrior in Defensive Stance without adequate Armor, Health, Defense, etc, that goes splat 100-0 is not a Tank for that content.
Anyone who holds the aggro of the mob for a vast majority of the fight, and lives, is nothing other than the tank for that fight.
It doesnât matter if a Warrior did it. It doesnât matter if a Shaman did. It doesnât matter if a Mage does it. It doesnât matter if whatever class did it lacks a talent tree thatâs meant for tanking. They tanked it.
The degree in which each of those are able to survive the endeavor is going to be different, but itâs irrelevant.
Thatâs why people still call the mage holding aggro on the HKM encounter a âtankâ.
Itâs why they call the Warlock holding aggro on the Twin in AQ40 a âtankâ.
I canât believe I actually even have to explain this. Itâs a petty dispute on terminology and nothing more.
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He literally dies nonstop on trash and takes almost twice as much if not more DTPS than an actual tank.
There is quite the difference in not playing the meta and doing something stupid just because you can with a stupid amount of work.
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Careful, the anti-fun police is gonna get you! WEEE-OOO WEEE-OOO WEEE-OOO!
STOP⊠IN THE NAME OF THE METAGAME⊠OR ELSE WEâLL SHOOT!
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Yep, the shaman is clearly tanking - no room for argument. They took aggro and maintained it effectively for the entirely of each fight. Done, thatâs a Tank.
Were they efficient at it? Hells no! A properly geared and specced War/Dru/Pal could have done it much easier, more efficiently and more reliably.
A string or crit crushes on Prince or Nightbane would almost certainly have been a wipe and that risk can all but be eliminated with one of the appropriately specced and geared classes I just mentioned. I mean, thereâs still a risk that any tank could cop an enfeeble on Prince for instance, so thereâs often fights where no tank is 100% reliable, but the standard tanks are far more reliable than a Shammy could ever be.
However, the objective of this thread was a proof of concept - and fun. Itâs a meme thing to do. But the vid shows it can be done. Itâs not something youâd then advise others to do but it can be done. Quibbing over whether thatâs tanking or not is silly.
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I mean, why not just ask to BE the tank at that point?
I mean, thats kinda the definition yes?
The Enfeeble getting on the Tank is a failure of the raid, not the class. This is just disingenuous.
This renders every class a Tank, which makes the distinction pointless.
If you canât reliably live, you defeat your earlier claim, which would mean you being a Tank or not is only outcome dependent and until you actually pull the boss and win, no one is a Tank. This also makes the distinction irrelevant.
That role is specifically designed around the Mage doing that job, which is why the damage is unresistable, the boss has a spell stealable buff that handles said damage, and you are punished heavily if you get into melee range. Mages arenât a Tank class, they have a gimmick Tank role that comes up twice in the entire expansion.
See above, except it is now resistable.
You tried something here, not sure what though.
Sounds like a you problem.
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