Umm yeah tanking can get expensive? you need to increase both the threat aspect and mitigation aspect through potions, consumables, etc…
I’m guessing you’re accustom to playing as a DPS?
Nope, I tank on my Druid. I haven’t noticed anything more or less expensive between Enh DPS on my Shaman and Feral Tanking with my Druid. Both require consumables, gems, enchants, etc.
If anything, my Enh Shaman is more expensive because I gotta purchase Mongoose enchants for both weapons.
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Yeah were the morons when you cant even spell rotation. Sheeeeeesh.
I never said it was good and honestly I wouldn’t even know. I haven’t tested it myself very much, it’s basically 1 guy.
ohh you think that’s all there is to the complexity… and that Oil was the thing I meant to say was complex? really Oil?
This is the basic way of pulling/pre-pulling: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1137166804?filter=highlights&sort=time This prepull/pulling was the result of critically thinking on how to improve threat.
Of course you wouldn’t pre-hot, there’s no reason to, you’re a druid tank…
what exactly are you saying?
There was literally math missing, we didn’t know about the existence of Servants Quarter gear in Kara, let alone that you can spam Servants Quarter with no raid lock out. Before we were aiming for gear that is not actually BiS. Many of us went weeks to months not knowing about this gear, essentially depriving us of our full potential.
We don’t start the game like paladin tanks who have countless people testing stuff out. But maybe one day we can 
You didn’t add any other information than that. You cannot get any more complex than what the kit gives you by default.
You wanna boast “complexity” when you still haven’t acknowledged the huge EH problem that currently staggers Warden Tanking in most if not all end-game content.
He is obviously giving an example of how Druids tank and generate thread. All of which forgoes having to put Wizard Oil on your weapon for the sole purpose of adding threat to pre-pulls.
This would be like forcing Druids to collect a couple of Arcane Dust and a Nightmare Vine every time they wanted to use Regrowth before a pull.
No, you can’t. Phase 2 is already here and all of Phase 1 has been nerfed. You can’t test your tanking capabilities in a nerfed state and expect anyone to take it seriously; it’s like limiting yourself to Easy Mode in a video-game and expecting all the people in Hard Mode to accept your ability to play the game is on par with theirs.
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Not sure how this is possible, you get one before every single YouTube video…
I wasn’t even being serious. I was joking.
No there wasn’t. That is listed loot, and acquiring more quickly by using resets doesn’t change anything.
Better AC is available on PvP gear outside of Arena. The only advantage was additional HPs…that doesn’t change the class mechanics of a Shaman actually tanking a very hard hitting boss.
Seriously?!
An additional 600 HPs while loosing AC value is suddenly going to allow you to tank a mob that can basically 1 shot you because your EH is so much lower than the other 3 tanks classes that your relying on luck?!
Not even close.
Warriors, Druids, and Paladins do not REQUIRE other classes be present outside of standard raid configs for 10 mans or 25 mans.
You don’t need more than 1 Paladin in a 25 man, you don’t need a Warlock for tanking purposes, healers don’t need a Shadow Priest to funnel them virtually unlimited mana, potions aren’t required, flasks aren’t required, food isn’t required.
I don’t need to stack threat control classes to maintain threat. I don’t need to TA and Salv together to have a glimmer of hope controlling threat.
I don’t need to do those things because all 3 tanks have the EH levels to not go splat and they have the TPS levels to generate threat without outside intervention.
Those things make an encounter easier to the 3 tanks…but they don’t elevate them to “might be possible” levels and then still rely on luck to hope to survive against challenging, hard hitting, unnerfed bosses.
edit: This approach of “we have found the super secret recipe of Shaman tanking pwn recently” and can tank 25 mans with hard hitting mobs is getting somewhat old.
Just because it’s new to you or tanking Shaman doesn’t mean that modeling doesn’t exist and metrics on a per fight basis have suddenly been altered allowing you tank a mob that hits for 5k on plate post block without a crush or crit.
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I think it would be better if he opened his character panel a few dozen more times per minute. Heard that really ups the TPS numbers…
1000 times this.
Still waiting on proof that shaman can tank t5…I’m in their discord and all they still post is post nerf Kara logs.
What good is a shaman tank if you can’t tank current content?
So when they tanked t4 content as it was current that didn’t count?
Can this cringe thread die already.
got any t5 logs or you here to cry?
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How much pre-nerf T4 content did they tank?
As far as I saw, it was Karazhan. What about HKM, Gruul, and Mag?
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Well I mean the video linked is an entire Kara. How much futher does this goal post need to move?
I don’t play shaman.
Post t5 log or don’t reply
That’s rude. I don’t know what my hunter’s logs have to do with any of this.