Just multibox 5 mages. They’ll AOE tank entire room pulls.
This, OMG this. Shaman in retail should be DPS, heal, tank. Let them use the elements for protection, coat themselves with earth, stone, fire, water, each providing a different kind of shield. They choose depending on what the boss is tossing out. It would be awesome fun with a very high skill ceiling. I’d so be all over that!
Well on Pservers if you follow skarmtank. Bosses have 5% parry and in Classic they have 14% parry. Pretty big difference. So threat is harder.
Can a Shaman tank SFK and some low stuff sure have at it but not if you got good Dps. You just won’t hold threat and you aren’t actually tanky. Especially at max level.
One thing about Vanilla is you can make many things work. However I wouldn’t call Shamans a tank. They just aren’t. Maybe some casual stuff with your friends sure but wouldn’t try to fill that position when you can just have a Tank do it far more effectively.
You do know a shaman tank that knows what hes doing can generate more threat than warriors right?
I will now copy and paste stuff iv already said here on this thread to prove my point again.
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At low level. Look we know they “CAN” tank some stuff but they aren’t Tanks.
Do they have Taunt? No
Do they have Tier Tanking Gear? No
Do they become worse at tanking as they level and gear progression? Yes
All I was saying. If you want to Sham Tank with some friends go for it. However the reason why I am playing Prot Warrior is so I can fill that role and rather just have you Dps because I will be the Tank. You want to off tank some fine.
Is Shaman a Tank? No
Heck Prot Pally is barely a Tank and you are talking about Sham tanking.
There are 2 Tanks in Vanilla
Warrior and Druids
Then there are the rest that try to tank.
At all levels, actually.
Warriors have Taunt. Shamans have a button that generates 1k-2k threat (max level numbers), on a lower cooldown than Taunt.
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I already made points on your statements.
Then why reply in the first place? Clearly you had to read some extent of my post to reply to it, which contradicts what you just said. Regardless, your opinion doesn’t mean anything to me, purely because you show no level of comprehensible rationality. Irony and incompetence mixed together is a great thing. Perhaps you should stop while you think you’re ahead because I’ve no intention of stopping.
I saw a lvl 40 mara run last night with no healer, litterally 0 heals
One of Skarm’s videos does a great job of delving into how to shaman tank in classic.
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Unconscious Dig Rat. Looked it up and found out that Patchwerk was assassinated by a solo rogue. gg
Ive seen someone work the math before. At a minimum they [tank build shaman] can produce around 800tps. That’s comparable to the main tank.
Someone early in the wow classic forum days attempted to explain how 1.11 through 1.12 warrior threat broke the game because now dps could go balls out without having to watch threat as much.
I’m betting that the supposed issues with hybrid tank threat arose in 1.11 and 1.12. because of this.
I mean the warrior bias in classic was pretty hilarious. The people in charge of balancing were actually high the entire time I think.
One of the great things about the classic era of the game (vanilla up to pre random dungeon finder wrath) was the ability to do fringe things such as tanking with a priest, mage etc. Or stacking spell power equipment on a rogue for insane poison damage. Or playing a hunter as a full fledged melee ranged hybrid.
But Shaman tanking is different. Like the alliance counterpart to the shaman, paladins, shaman can wield a shield. And at level 40 equip light-heavy armor, mail.
Argue that a shield is just a stat stick all you want, but a shield is a defensive tool. In addition to providing the highest armor of any item slot, it has a defensive mechanic with blocking.
Combine this with the obviously intended tanking talents in the enhancement tree you have to conclude that the shaman can tank.
Only the full hybrids fit this concept. Druids, shamans, and paladins. Druids don’t use shields but dire bear form is comparable to plate armor with a shield equipped.
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I read the first sentence and up to the comma of the first one. Once again you’re just making yourself look like a fool.
I was an OT till Dreanor. They can do pretty good if you know the class.
And yes, I will be a tank come Classic.
You seem to be strongly opinionated for someone so ignorant and arrogant. Again; what part of “your opinion is irrelevant to me”, did you not understand?
I’ve seen it and its a sight to behold. Had a shaman tank on a rogue of mine in RFD. So it can be done in mid/upper dungeons too.
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Shaman are viable tanks up to raids, and can tank MC and possibly beyond with preparation and ideal conditions available. Viable =/= Optimal. Warriors and druids will be MUCH more effective tanks, and paladins will probably be a step above shaman tanks. If you’re determined to tank as a shaman and you adequately prepare, it can be done. The real difference is, you will be able to tank WAYYYYY more effectively as a warrior with a fraction of the time and effort invested.
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Except those lvl 30’s are effectively twinked out, Preach was saying awhile ago he had around 1.5k HP at level 30, Some of the people in those groups are rocking 3k+.
OT: shamans can tank anything upto lvl 40 safely, after that they still can tank everything but life is ALOT easier to tank it on a plate class thanks to the massive armor jump you get from going mail to plate vs leather to mail.