It technically is. Dual Spec requirement is all about everything. Then this would stop the issues of people thinking about enhancement shamans to tank due to tank shortages.
Look at medium populated servers and low populated servers. They are already dying.
âŚwut?
People want to Tank on a Shaman because it is âtabooâ and unorthodox, nothing more. The goober Shaman claiming theyâd like it if they could do content because real Tanks are all mean to them is just sour grapes nonsense.
Dual Spec doesnât cure Tank shortages, it merely alleviates them somewhat by allowing the minority of people that like to Tank to do so a bit more freely than presently. Tanks are already a minority population, and people that donât roll Warrior/Druid/Paladin are not the kinds of people that plan on Tanking in the first place. Dual Spec doesnât touch them at all. Plus there are those Tanks that sometimes just want to do something else other than Tank so Dual Spec would see them online more, but NOT Tanking, which eats into the aforementioned minority.
I want Dual Spec added.
Dual Spec is not a panacea to either Tank shortages or population problems.
I dont feel like paying 50g every time switching from Ret/Holy to Prot.
I dont feel like paying 50g every time switching from Arms/Fury to Prot.
Also tanking as shamans were a thing back in Vanilla because people never really chose meta at the beginning of the game. It literally gives options to increase blocked chances and allowed you to tank whenever you dont find tanks who are warriors or druids.
Iâve seen plenty of shaman tanks who tanked back in Vanilla in raids such as BWL/MC/AQ40/Naxx.
If youâre just going to talk past me like I didnât bring up this exact thing already, Iâm not sure what to do with you.
I want Dual Spec added, and in your case and in mine, it would make doing stuff a lot easier and more fun. I agree with this. But you and I arenât a majority of players so despite our newfound interest, others wonât have the same Tank-centric reaction and the Tank shortages will continue, albeit slightly less.
Shaman arenât the only people with defensive talents, but the mere existence of defensive talents do not make a Tank.
I get the distinct impression you have no clue how useless Block was in Vanilla, and continues to be for anyone that isnât a Paladin in TBC. Having a chance to trim off 150-200 damage of a 4k+ hit is not as interesting as you think it is.
Shaman didnât Tank most of those raids either⌠they stood in the way, got exploded, and then had a Druid or Warrior do the rest of the job for them.
I am pretty sure you have never played Vanilla raids or did dungeons and think Classic is technically Vanilla when Classic is just replay of Vanilla with people nitpicking meta specs and BiS gears.
You can assume this, but youâd be horrendously wrong.
Why do you think Block is so special? Not Shield Block the ability that Warriors use, just passive Block.
lmao at âshamans canât tankâ while having videos showing shamans tank. Sure itâs not the best tank, but who cares, people are having fun.
I mean I guess your right based on the OPs post and his views on tanking as a shaman. Would explain a lot of the complaining about horrible pugs too. Either people are ignorant to what bad is or they do it for w/e reason.
I donât have to prove anything or back up any point. As old as this game is, if shaman tanking was even remotely better (or even on par) than any other options there would plenty of shaman tanks running around.
Also, you are doing much of the same (your last two responses anyways). Your not discussing or debating what I am saying with valid arguments. I donât cater to those who are trying to annoy me on a personal level. Iâm done conversing with you unless you start contributing to the convo.
I donât feed trollsâŚunless of course the OP is a troll in which case Iâm getting baited hardcoreâŚstill canât decide.
big whoosh. kinda sad to see really.
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You do know thereâs a difference between tank viability and dps viability, right?
DPS have to meet a certain DPS threshold in order to be considered viable this is a universally accepted thingâŚ
Although Warlock Tanking is a thing in Woltk itâs not on the same high level as shaman tank though.
Yeah, one is a Tank, one is a DPS.
Oh this is rich coming from you.
âhigh levelâ
Here you go Ămpathy! Sorry, it took me a while but I just now got some time to put together a Lurker add video 
Well done. And doing it with friends, even better.
I thought of an analogy. A person wants to have a nice concrete patio built in their backyard. Thereâs a really reputable local contractor that uses nice powered equipment to do the job. Especially powered buggyâs to make wheel barreling the concrete to the pour faster from the concrete truck.
Or, the person could get with some friends of theirs that have experience working with concrete and building patios and such. Using regular wheel barrels to pour the concrete with. Albeit at a slower pace.
In both scenarios the patio gets done.
For many people, the only viable way to have a patio built is with the contractor. And thatâs great, the patio will be awesome.
For others, however, getting with their buddies that know how to do this type of work over a weekend or 2, and still getting a nice patio out of it is good enough.
Everyone knows that warriors, paladins, and feralâs are the designed tanks. Using the shaman as a tank is for the challenge. And dare I say, having fun in a video game.
Thatâs not what viable means.
Hey Fasc, check this out! I recently became aware that the current fastest FLK kill uses a shaman to tank the healer add ( and a whole lot of hunters lol). Shaman tank meta? 
(you are going to have to add the âclassic warcraft logsâ ahead of it since I still canât post links 
) /reports/Fzm6caVXR3wG8qh7#fight=31&type=damage-taken
Despite Fasciaeâs enraged, throbbing hard-on for all Warden discussions Iâm excited to try it in dungeons and Heroics soon once I get enough rep/PvP gear. Chain Lightning + Frost Shock + Fire Nova is a fantastic way to pull packs, and the new big ele totems are pretty sweet as well (although theyâll keep pulling things so long as theyâre in range of something haha). Plus with two separate rep sets for Shaman itâs super easy to reach max resilience which is nice.
LOL not quite since Caribdis hits for 6k-7k unmitigated swings, so it isnât particularly painful. In this case though, theyâre just zerging Fathom-Lord without killing anything so the Shaman being a âtankâ isnât even really the crux, but rather the Shaman being a Shaman so that Heroism/Bloodlust can be applied. A single Dreamstate Druid was responsible for just pounding the Shaman with Regrowths and even then the Shaman still dipped below 25% repeatedly and stayed there.
A lot of death in this pull too just to squeeze out a zerg kill.
Color me impressed that a Paladin solo Tanked both the Hunter and Shaman adds until the very end. The Warrior on Fathom-Lord is less impressive since they more or less killed the boss within the duration of Shield Wall since Fathom-Lord was swinging for 30k+ with all three adds up.
In dungeons you can straight up Tank things in most cases, but in Heroics youâll be reliant on a fair amount of CC and kiting to actually survive, crit capped or not. Shaman canât get to the point where they can just take a full Heroic Shattered Halls pack to the face with their own toolkit while DPS AoEs, so youâll definitely need to pack a Mage or two for the Polymorphs and breathing room of kiting.
Of course this sorta undermines the point if the Mages do all the kiting for you but it is what it is with Shaman squishiness.
Well I think itâs cool what youâre trying to do. People on these forums can get toxic if you try anything thatâs outside of the normal cookie cutter mold.
Keep doing what enables you to have fun dude. Your gameplay doesnât effect anyone other than your own and your raid. If theyâre all cool with it and you are too. Nothing anyone here says should effect you. Screw the haters, theyâre just a handful of knobs.
you really posted a video of you clicking your spells? clickers smh