Ooh… don’t do that. A tank shaman is called a Paladin.
A tank shaman is called a Paladin.
It’s not. Shaman don’t use the Light. Or any type of “Holy” magic.
Shaman is literally a unique case.
No, it’s not. Strip away the effects and you’re left with mechanical affects and the numbers attached to them.
Alael, you misunderstand the argument here.
Shaman were given shields in VANILLA. We were psuedo tanks even back then. Any semblance of being able to tank has been stripped away over the years.
We are asking Blizz to do what they originally had planned, which is letting OUR class tank.
I’m guessing you missed the first two paragraphs I wrote on this thread and zeroed in on a disagreement towards the end:
Restoring Enhancement to their former glory would give you almost what you are looking for. In the days where people actually formed their own groups, Enhancement was very capable of tanking at least the lower level dungeons.
Even though we queued as dps in LFR, picking up a decent amount of adds, with minimal outside heals was easy. You would mainly acting as crowd control and your main ‘enemy’ were taunts by the real tanks. Breaking out the big boulder elemental was not even necessary.
Not too far off of what you are looking for? I would love to get my shaman back to ‘normal’ to at least MoP days.
Sorry, but you’re wrong here.
We are the equivalent of SpellSwords.
Paladins are religious based heavy fighters.
They are NOT the same thing.
I’d probably play a Shaman if they had a tank.
That’s my biggest issue with Shaman atm. I want to be able to flex to tank if necessary.
I would be beyond mad if Enhancement was turned into a Tank spec.
Not that it ever will.
Tank Shaman isn’t something I personally care for.
I don’t think it would be bad, but they wont even give enh 2hand back because its been so long.
I think they’d do that before doing a whole new spec based on something that is equally as old.
They are if you want to call bow toting warriors “hunters.” It’s not a competition. Oversimplification is the bane of any constructive discussion.
Yes. I have suggested that the give Shamans the ability to be a Geomancer. Hardening their skin with stone and even at times transforming into stone elementals to tank. Using augments of Ice, Fire and Electricity to AOE their enemies for different effects. The choice being which element they choose to use at any specific time.
I would be beyond mad if Enhancement was turned into a Tank spec.
I’ve actually seen people advocate this. I’m totally against that, as much as I would like to see a tank spec, I wouldn’t want it at the expense of losing our melee spec.
There are 4 elements, we could easily have 4 specs with each one having a “main” element behind it (not losing access to the other 3, as some seem to think that means, those other just being ‘lesser’)
Sorry, the community wants shaman tanks so that’s clearly a no go.
Awesome idea but won’t happen anytime soon, and we’ll get a storyline etc way beforehand anyway to set the Lore straight.
I think Shaman would be fun tanks, but adding Tank classes does not add tanks, I feel a new ranged DPS class would be more popular as folks don’t like playing tanks much.
They are if you want to call bow toting warriors “hunters.”
At best a “ranged warrior” could be a Ranger, akin to Aragorn, but at the heart he was MAINLY a Warrior that sometimes used a bow.
Even Blizz was smart enough to remove that extra slot away from us a LONG time ago, because it became mostly a stat stick.
How about this: rather than “competing” with me, why don’t you go back through the entire history of fantasy books starting with Tolkien, and paying particular attention to the earliest days of Dungeons and Dragons (about the first 10-15 years or so). When you’ve “boned up” on what classes were in those genres, then you can come back and debate me on what they should be in WoW and why.
TL:DR version: I have years on knowledge on this, you’re outgunned here.
but adding Tank classes does not add tanks
I actually think it would do the opposite. There are a lot of people that would try out a new tanking class if it were available.
DH wasn’t considered “viable” as a tank originally, but no you see them everywhere. I actually remember early in the DH life cycle when people would shun DH tanks.
What you’re talking about is SPEC specific first of all, and you’re talking about making EVERYTHING be a “tier set”, which is equally as insane as the last comment.
If THAT is your basis here, you’ve gone completely off the deep end, and I can’t take anything you say here seriously anymore.
Spec specific - correct (It has already been a long day lol). This has all just gotten way off on a tangent. My original point towards this was if new specs are getting added to some classes, then all classes should have the same selection. You would also need to be awarded/equip gear for that spec you like to (are) playing: playing a tank, ‘farming’ gear for you tank. Simple.
I would love a shaman 4th spec as tank. To protect allies. They could make it unique and have it be the first two handed/ shield spec.
Los Totems that make the enemy have los but you can shoot through like Overwatch barriers.
All elementals buffing you and being summonable allies to assist in tanking.
A Volcano totem, sandstorm totem, tornado totem, tsunami totem. All sorts of cool stuff you can do to aoe cc.
Mail tank gear would also look dope.
Customize the type of shield you want defending you. Base earth shield that can upgrade to like metal spikes with lightning, magma armor, or maybe like spinning sand storm or fiery stuff hitting back when you are being attacked.
Mail tank gear would also look dope.
LOL, I doubt that.
Mail gear over the course of this game has never looked “dope”.
More like “dopey”.
The hunter gear usually but I do like alot of the shaman gear. I am excited to see the rest of the mail covenant stuff. I like the mail bastion sets. I am excited to see the other covenants.
We definitely need more tank spec options from each class, or at least that is plausible. Shaman is a perfect example of doing tanking. I would also throw in Warlock because back in Cataclysm, that one metamorphasis Glyph truly showed the possibility.
I’m not outgunned on anything here.
You seem to think it’s okay for Shaman’s to get a special 4th spec and no other class.
You seem to think ye ol’ fantasy applies to Warcraft’s standards in any meaningful way?
You can’t separate that Vivify, Flash of Light, Flash Heal and Healing Surge are all the same spell, but the classes they’re attached to are very different.
And you’ve convinced yourself you’re the authority on the matter. All matters, in fact.
And you know what? No. I’m not playing that game. Someone shooting down everything they don’t agree with as wrong or irrelevant isn’t having a conversation.
Roll a Paladin. There’s your magic tank.
I feel a new ranged DPS class would be more popular
The only ranged class I could see them adding that they haven’t already covered in some other form is an ESPer class.
I wouldn’t know how they would do it, but they’ve pretty much covered or rehashed everything that doesn’t require “tech” of some sort.
Which leads us to Tinker…