It sure would make sense to have this Shaman-specific thread in the Shaman-specific class forum.
TBH i never really liked primordial wave as it was before. Would have rather had it transform flame shock rather than be just another button that applies it. Shaman has a bloat problem as it is and primordial wave always felt redundant for how mandatory it was.
I don’t like it now either, but at least for enhancement it isn’t strictly mandatory anymore.
If elemental has a problem applying flame shock, then one obvious solution is to give it access to voltaic blaze
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Yup… Last patch was the best I have seen PVP in general for balance in over a decade. My elemental was (my main) amazingly fun! Then Tuesdays patch came and… I couldn’t put my finger on it but we felt… Blah. Kind of back to most of Elemental’s existent. Always kind of forgotten about.
The class just feels boring again. Thought maybe it was just me.
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It did so much more than just apply another flame shock
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I’m aware, but i still think it feels like bloat for the sake of bloat for what it does, or did
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Since you are moving this topic from the shaman class forums to the general discussion forums I recommend you adjust your post to provide more information on what the actual change is.
You sort of just launch into the fact that you don’t like it and talk about how you think a lot of people agree with you and Include a bunch of links many probably won’t put the effort into digging through.
But as someone who isn’t familiar with shaman or the change as I imagine many in GD might also not be, it would go a long way to helping you build a case for blizzard to do something about it if you provided a concise outline of the changes.
100% - Also have you noticed our survivability nose dived? Astral shift is 60% DR but with everyone else getting buffs, or something, I die super easy now. We already have the worst escapability in the game (even with Wolf form which always made me laugh).
So, for the 21st time, over and over again, I shelf the ele and play heals… This happens every, single time with this class. They either hate the class or someone in the dev office gets owned by them and nerfs them… God forbid if we didn’t always have the meta as paladins, dks and DHs…
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ban all mEgAtHrEaD nonsense.
Ive been questing as Elemental and i really hate the new Primordial Wave. The great benefit of the old version was that it came in handy on a 2-pull to not waste Magma totem.
The new version is bad for st least 4 reasons:
- Two-pulls are now a lot more miserable
- The ability does nothing. Its not a nuke, its a wet noodle.
- Why do i need more AoE than we had previously? This new addition is not good AoE and it synergizes poorly. Now you have to Magma to get any use out of the thing.
- I dont know what the goal here was, or even what it was supposed to be. Who was this for?
I strongly urge you to revert the change. Its a regression from where the ability was, and i cant understand what the point of the change was supposed to fix.
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Little bro, there’s 14 links to posts complaining about the same thing lol…
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+1 please either revert the pwave change or make flame shock spreading easier for ele. This chance makes pwave essentially unusable for m+ builds.
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Not to hijack this thread but they made a lot of terrible class changes this go around. Not happy with a single spec I play except for maybe Devoker.
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At this point I wish they’d replace PWave with a Storm Archon like ability from Plunderstorm.
You’ve set precedent by giving WW Slicing Winds so giving Elemental an amazing visual would be awesome.
Also as long as we are voicing our opinions, when can we get a warlock style update to our elementals? I want that Gallagio Earth Elemental with the pink hat.
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That’s the dream! every ability from Plunderstorm should be implemented into the main game imo.
Understandable it was wanted to separate and create a different playstyle with it, but the fact it is still almost necessary for the haste buff alone shows how mis managed it was changed.
With little to no methods of spreading flameshock like enh currently has (minus Asc/LMT), it needs a revamp hard.
I do not like this version of Primordial Wave and it is bugged with Fusion of Elements. Ele’s opener felt so nice with the other version before 11.1
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Been playing for a bit… I am going to just play resto until this gets fixed, its terrible. If not I will wait until next patch to try Ele. This change makes me scratch my head. The class was almost perfect!! Best ele since the start and why mess with it???
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Its not gonna go back. Im sure some DPS melee like a warrior thats a dev got sick of being melted by elementals and changed it.
Its typical blizzard though. Fixing something not broken
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New change is terrible. Didn’t Blizzard state that the damage was going greatly increased and make it a serious DPS spell? My Elemental Shaman is 637, and the damage increase before the change was like 30k… It feels clunky to use and terrible to use in its current state, and the only beneficial reason to even use it is for the 10% haste from the talent tree.
Revert it back to the way it was.
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Please revert the Pwave change for Ele, it was such a hype moment in our rotation, and now you barely can tell you’re pressing it.
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