Shaman is still undisputed king of PvP

because they were getting grief. You know we cant have fun w/o some moron or bunch of morons messing it up for everyone.

Give them nore famage and remove earthshield, literally tanks in pvp have no place-

Shamans are the worst class in the game right now imo. Soon as a shaman gets cced, they lose. We need a buff not a nerf.

tanks everywhere in the game, but cant have them in pvp? how does that make sense? to become a tank your sacrificing damage so be less killable. a shaman tank is putting out very little damage and just trying to get your attention while someone else kills you, like tanks have literally always been.

My boomie disagrees… full cds no class wins 1vs1 unless another good boomie with better crit stun rng

This is the worst quote chain ever. Wolves are low damage and low healing, Rage is how they stay mana steady like everyone else and is their only Def CD in the game. FS deals less damage than your corrupt spell. Chain was always an AoE. I have no idea what is a low cd escape as they do not have one. Same for low cd saves, like wtf are you sure you not talking about druid? Ele can melt faces with procs, but that proc is now 5% vs the riptide proc that would give you a 5% each tick from FS or Riptide. So yeah its not very often, even with 4 people hit with it. Nothing counters a paladin in PvP if they have bubble, besides another paladin that has bubble.

You should be ashamed of your terrible troll attempt.

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Wolves is great, but not shammies take them. Shamanistic rage is still the best rune hands down, but the mana benefit to party members has been nerfed to the ground such that it’s almost useless unless you stack it. Yes, elemental shammies are doing okay.

Enh shammies can do nothing atm. We are full glass cannon without the cannon. We have no survivability. Shammies do not have low CD saves. Riptide has been nerfed in pvp, and it’s not enough to save us in open world pvp anyhow. Maelstrom does not provide enough healing. We have no hard CC. We do have a few tools to escape cc, but we die in a single pally twirly or boomy fire. Shammies do not hard counter pallies (it’s the other way around).

Pallies have 2 stuns and an incapacitate. They have trinket. They have a bubble every 50 seconds, and other bubble. They have blessing of freedom. They have plate mail and LoH. Their auto attacks take 1/3 of my life. I die in a single hoj.

Pallies are raid bosses.

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Paladins are notoriously the only ones who have this

Golkra take #492

I love Golkra takes

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SR is the best rune to take!

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oh my lord I missed that

Golkra you should go talk to this guy and check out his books

it’s really cool I promise

One stun and one incapacitate.

You don’t ?

Whot ?

You don’t ?

Hmmm… sure.

Lol no. Just no.

You play the wrong spec/rune.

No more that you were a couple of phases ago.

look man you don’t understand. Paladins have a helmet, a necklace, a chest piece, bracers, a belt, leggings, boots, gloves, a cloak, two rings, and two trinkets.

ON TOP OF A 2 HANDED WEAPON???

absolutely busted

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Shaman were raid bosses for like a few weeks. stop acting like it was since 4 phases.

no class combines damage in survival in such high amounts , boomkin just high dps

this a joke? enh shaman that can dps is literally made of paper. boomkins have higher armor and druid heals are way beyond an enh shaman

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you say that then try and also say boomkin are “just high dps” .

have you tried dpsing a druid down with their defensives popped?

its an exercise in futility.

At this point just delete the Shaman class.
People are now basing their opinions off of a dual tournament and a popular streamer’s gameplay. (which was before our current nerfs)

He was being hit by Seal Twisting which is an empowered AA, Paladins can still Crit for 1k on a white hit.

Most people die in a single HoJ. The amount of damage Ret Paladins can pull out of a 4 second Seal Twisting is stupid. Imagine if Shamans had their WF proc every 3 seconds. That is basically what is happening with Seal Twisting.

So I think it is only fair that Shamans should have their WF proc every 3 seconds from normal AA and have a different CD for abilities like Storm Strike.

Well let me guess another paladins behind who’s really saying this, lets start with the health pool you have to drain three times after his bubble/healing not to mention the 2k exorcism’s/shocks oh yeah and avenger’s sheild now as well for a whopping instant 6k dmg every 6 seconds not to mention the 10k hp/armor sounds but it does sound like shamans really in a good place. I mean clearly why you playing pally and not a shaman?. .I have to run WOE (tanking rune) to barely become viable and able to do anything let alone live long enough to hope for a proc resulting in any sort of dmg vs your insta cast shocks/sheild/ex… Dont get me started on enh, hits like a WET noodle now, took away self HEALS with maelstrom, so now you look stupid not being able to cast anything else if you use it on your less
er heal and being your not even a glass cannon (might even take over current bullshi). Now to Ele hitting like a 13 yr old unless the overload proc decides to make an appearance then it feels okay and might be just enough to squeak out a 1v1 if your NS happens to be up…

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Yeah, it is but Shaman has such a huge fan base on the forum who keep denying it.