Shaman Class Tune BCC / BCC SoM

I have 2 things i would like to bring to dev attention and discuss here, with an additional bonus thought / Season of Mastery BCC suggestion (or live change if accepted). This is a service for Niche players so please can we discuss without insult or depravity and comment only if adding to the discussion rather than beating someone down.

  1. Can Threat be added back to Rockbiter - At max level it is unused and should not have been removed in BC. the change simply adds back what classic had and goes a long way to those who wish to take on the challenge of shaman tanking.

  2. Stoneclaw Hard taunt - This 30s cooldown ability should have a hard taunt (like that of warrior / druid / pally). When specc’d in it has around 2k health and would give the shaman enough time to generate threat on the group / mob and being an actual taunt would be great to defend players. Possibly roll this into the “Earth’s Grasp” talent so that it must be spec’d so as to not cheese things? or just a blanket fix stoneclaw because this totem too, goes unused at max level.

The final bonus is that of a talent swap in the elemental tree. This is by far the biggest change / fundamental “class re-design” but i believe it would be a non-upset because it wouldn’t change any meta talenting for PVE / PVP elemental shamans. Swap “Eye of the Storm” and “Elemental Shields”. Both are 3 point talents that are not used in pve and both are used in pvp elemental spec’s so the change wouldn’t affect anyone and this would place elemental shields within the 15 point requirement range making it accessible to shaman tanks who specc’d into shamanistic rage.

The first two suggestions are not “Game-altering changes” for the community at large, simply a fix to unused abilities for niche players who wish to take this challenge on & the bonus would also change nothing for any other player other than those who want to attempt to utilize defensive talents that blizzard gave shamans. Even as a late game fix This would be fun for utilizing the shaman abilities at max level in fun different ways , those who wish to do this have been gathering gear from being Disenchanted and pvp’ing to fill the slots for resil /stam heavy gear and getting ready to tank previous content for fun, or even taking on ZA as an offtank or MT :slight_smile:

A little too ambitious, I’d ask for smaller less grandiose changes. Stoneskin Totem effecting % armor, Fire totem dealing threat for the shaman, etc…

There hasn’t been a single class change besides paladins.
At this point, I’d be happy with them increasing the duration of imbues… or fixing the totem range re-entry effect.

There will be no season of mastery TBC. It would have like 1k players playing it.

SOM classic is all ready in it’s death throes what likely won’t have a second season.

I don’t understand why people don’t get this concept, but for something like seasonal WoW to work it has to be very specific. I’ll give you an example.

Each season consists of a new raid, dungeon, and pvp season that have never been seen before. Think classic but with extra raid tiers following naxx. And to encourage new players to play? Unique mounts, armor sets, rewarded for purchasing the season pass. As well as unique mounts and armor sets for completing the new raid content.

That would be way more popular than new expansions or silly gimmicks like som.

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i still think SoM was only a “fail” because it was released to soon after the Classic launch in 2019 and while a lot of people were still enjoying TBC and didnt want to replay Classic so soon.

Why would they do another SoM when the first failed so spectacularly?

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Please consider adding more offhand options for p1. The only pve 2.6 speed options are heroic blues. The only 2.7 option is a level 61 blue BOE.

Wouldn’t it be better if fast weapons were not bad?

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I tried to tell everyone SOM was an awful idea, especially when it makes a bunch of stupid changes instead of things classic really needed. The thread was trolled then later silently deleted by Blizzard. The end result was a bunch of new shovelware realms, exactly as I warned.

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“There wont be a classic wow it won’t have enough players nobody would want to play it.”
“There wont be a classic tbc it won’t have enough players nobody would want to play it.”
“There wont be a classic wotlk it won’t have enough players nobody would want to play it.”

etc etc, I dont understand how you can continue to make these claims when you are wrong every single time

You guys expect the game to draw in millions of subs and act like its only playable with millions of people when a smaller server is perfectly viable for play. The Everquest retro servers barely manage more than 1k people on a good day and still have full communities of players.

The fix for that would be removing the WF weapon ICD which would probably still make slower weapons better and would definitely make enh shaman overpowered.

Shamans are not tanks and giving them a taunt on a totem and threat on rockbiter isn’t going to help. The class would need an entire revamp from top to bottom and an itemization change to make it work. It’s not happening.

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so, would it be better if WF was a MH only buff from the totem and the other buffs like rock biter are weapon imbued?

Less then 10k active raiders in SoM currently. Dead game is dead.

I’ll be so mad if we get this instead of being fixed for PvP.

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Subjective opinion is subjective. Also you are just counting raiders, there are tons of players that don’t even bother with raiding.

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Your mode of raiding.

If I could raid through LFR in classic, I would.

Wafectus don’t start. Just please don’t.

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