Shadows Rising: State of Azeroth Details

The author just confirmed that Bwon LIED to Zekhan about Saurfang during an interview with Nobbel.

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Just a brief aside, I think Dragonblight is actually mentioned exactly once in the bookā€“regarding Sylvanasā€™ subordinates. Iā€™ll see if I canā€™t dig up the page if someone hasnā€™t done it all ready. But it is exactly thatā€“a brief, mostly forgettable mention.

Except that heā€™s specifically trying to manipulate Zekhan into doing what he wants, and blindly accept a ā€˜favor.ā€™

He has a lot to gain from lying (and did in fact gain a lot, given that Z & T did what he wanted). And Zekhan certainly seems to think he did lie, when its all over.

Whether Saurfang has a happy afterlife is very much up in the air. The book doesnā€™t confirm it either way, and there is a lot of reason to doubt it.

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Thanks, I didnā€™t see that. I hate interviews.

So confirmed Bwomsandi lied about it to get Zhekan further on his side.

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I like Madeleine, she really seems to ā€œgetā€ the characters in ways that even Blizzard doesnā€™t seem to understand anymore.

Bwon lying to Zekhan is fundamental to Bwonā€™s identity and proves Bwon isnā€™t infected by Anduin Syndrome the way the rest of the characters are.

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So Dragonblight mention is in Chapter 4. Nathanos asks Sira if she remembers what he told her when they boarded the Bansheā€™s Wail in Dragonblight.

It is a one sentence, seeming throw-away in the novel, but it does hint at where the forsaken have been. >.>

Soā€¦there you go. Dragonblight mentionedā€“albeit only once, and mostly as a throw-away comment in part of another conversation between Nathanos and Sira.

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I mean, heā€™s a Trickster. It does seen appropriate that heā€™s not being 100% honest either, since gods like him can be hard to get ā€˜informationā€™ out of

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Yeah? So, why didnā€™t Bwonsamdi do this?

Because revealing ones weakness is not in the character of a god like Bwonsamdi. Bwonsamdi is manipulative and Zekhan is naive and manipulable.

Zekhan to Bwonsamdi is like a filet mignon to a wolf.

Wat.
He does reveal his weakness to us, Kaleaon.

Nope, he reveals his weakness to Talanji because it is also her weakness, if he dies she dies. When Bwonsamdi shows Zekhan the (false) afterlife of Sadfang, Bwonsamdi is fit as a fiddle. Itā€™s only after his altars are attacked that he starts to lose his powers.

And honestly, Iā€™m still not convinced that Bwonsamdi is even really a Loa or was ever really in danger in Shadows Rising, or if it was all a way to win Talanjiā€™s loyalty.

Go play Nazmir again, homie.
Edit: Also, rewatch the liberation of the darkspear islands.

What are you referring to? Bwonsamdi is never in any danger in Nazmir, he pretends to be to win the loyalty of the Horde player. Thatā€™s my point. The other Loa are in danger because they are actually Loa and vulnerable. Bwonsamdi pretends to be in danger in Shadows Rising, but at no point does he actually appear to be in danger.

Bwonsamdi is not really a Loa. Not in the Wild God sense.

Bwonsamdi is nearly killed in Nazmir by a mortal priest.
He also bemoans one of his weaknesses, ā€œA soul missinā€™? Da boss gonna be mad about dis.ā€

Nah, heā€™s never in danger, the blood troll priestess never even comes close to winning. Bwonsamdi was obviously capable of fending her off even without the player there. Equally he never comes close to being defeated in Shadows Rising, quite the opposite.

Heā€™s just a liar because its in his nature to lie. He wants Talanji to think heā€™s vulnerable so he plays along. And in the end she keeps the bond with him and thinks its her idea because sheā€™s a naive teenager.

Iā€™m not saying heā€™s evil. He does save Troll souls from the Maw where he can, for his own reasons. But heā€™s not good either. And heā€™s no Wild God or Loa.

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Yes she does. The only reason sheā€™s stopped is because youā€™re there. She even comments on the fact.

Sure. Because sheā€™s wrong. And its all a game to Bwonsamdi. Heā€™s not like other Loa. Heā€™s not vulnerable like other Loa.

Thatā€™s the whole point of the Shadows Rising story. Even Sylvanas trying to kill Bwonsamdi was a joke. He was always one step ahead of her every step of the way. Bwonsamdi was never in any danger. He even plays with Nathanos and the other characters toward the end not obeying their summons like any other Loa did or would. Because heā€™s not a Loa.

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Bwonsamdi is a Loa, at least by the classification of the Trollsā€™ religion. He is definitely not the same as other Loa however, in what way isnā€™t exactly clear yet.

It could be just being a creature of the Shadowlands, or he might be some kind of immortal interdimensional being for all we know.

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The only thing we know is that in the night elven after life the night elven death goddess, who is a daughter of elune, is Bwonsamdiā€™s boss.

Which is infuriating.