Most of them seem to go about it in a reasonable Way and anger is understandable after what was done to them.
Your reaction on the other hand, not so much.
Not at all. I can live pretty good with it. Shutting up would be unhealthy.
Wrong. It wasn’t feedback. It was because he was one of the best liked characters in BfA.
Calia is the most disliked.
No it dosen’t. It seems they have something planed for Calia. All the More reason to be vocal about this nonsense.
You are wrong on every level. Say have you distain for Forsaken fans?
Refusing to accept narrative direction and feeling anger because of it is unhealthy.
That is feedback, and feedback that aligned with the narrative direction Blizzard had already chosen.
Yes, it’s leading the Forsaken by 9.3
Being vocal won’t change that. Because blizzard has decided on a direction. And instead of providing ways to make it better, you choose deny that it can be made better. It’s delusional.
I’m not, actually. I’m just not delusional about the narrative direction regarding the Forsaken and the nature of Blizzard’s decision making tendencies.
What? Who is denying reality more, the people pushing Calia for the lols and memes or Blizzard who has twice now specifically gone out of their way to clarify that Calia is not the Forsaken leader?
This reminds me of all of the anti-Sylvanas people who were absolutely certain that Thunder Bluff was going to be the 8.3 raid because Thrall mentions it a a possibility and obviously Sylvanas was going to be the end boss of BfA. No amount of evidence to the contrary was good enough until the N’zoth stuff was datamined.
Nah, most discussion around this topic, especially from the anti-Sylvanas crowd, was that N’zoth and the Black Empire was going to be 9.0 content right up until the 8.2 raid. That wasn’t delusional, that was Blizzard failing to tell a coherent story.
If Calia becomes leader of the Forsaken it will only be as a temporary tie-in to a Light is Evil expansion we all know is coming.
Now it’s time for you to take a break and think: “Should I really write this?”
They are doing what you want them to do. No one denyies anything.
Wrong again. Fan art, memes and such things aren’t feedback. Not that sort of narrative feedback anywas.
Sure it shows they once did a good job and They are accepting and using it.
On the other hand you’re ignoring that Calia is the most disliked new character.
Again. People are giving this feedback. Don’t ignored it.
I will continiue to say: There is nothing they can do to make it better. A light Zombie was a stupid idea.
So they don’t listen to feedback?
Yes you are 100% wrong. Curent Calia will ruin the Forsaken.
Why did you ignore this question?
Final comment about Calia I’ll make. Blizzard almost never answers lore questions, and when they do they do in rambling incoherent way. There are few things that Blizzard has ever answered more clearly than that Calia is not the Forsaken leader and that “Tirelessly Strive to Protect the Living” was a placeholder. They answered those questions real quick.
Blizzard got shook at how badly Calia was received. No doubt.
We had Naga in 8.0 zones, a mysterious giant tentacle temple led by a dude following Azshara’s orders, as well as the Uldir raid on launch that was (pseudo) Old God centric with Azshara also talking with Zul. The war campaign was always secondary to the narrative, same way the Drust/death stuff and the Bwonsamdi stuff was secondary.
It’s obvious where the story was going if folks knew how Blizz worked after anywhere from 5 to 15 years playing the game.
She’s going to become the leader and will be given a “dark” side. The next expansion will be Shadow/Light centered, correct, it is obvious, and Calia will be a Shadow Ascendant/Light Queen duality character.
Popular media production is feedback, because it shows what people liked.
In the story forums. On Twitter especially you see a lot of Calia support.
Or it’s a setup for a “fall” into Shadow Zombie, which Blizzard always does.
Not for fixed narrative decisions, no.
Because it’s a stupid question. I’ve had a Forsaken Alt since I started playing. You could see what we are currently experiencing was the end result of the plot line metzen introduced in Cata because Blizzard does not know how to write an anti-hero. They simple cannot write one.
Using Calia, having her be put through the coals, betrayed by the Alliance, witnessing some form of massacre to the Horde that radicalizes her, and going Shadow Form, as well as the Maldraxxus plot providing Forsaken a new way to raise undead WITHOUT Valkyr, is a necessary narrative direction.
That is literally not what Blizzard said. Blizzard said “Calia will not join the Forsaken out of pity”. That is not what you are reading into it.
Here’s what Steve Danuser said in an interview this month:
“In terms of Calia Menethil, you’re right that she is not the leader of the Forsaken.”
Now if you’ve ever read a lore interview, Blizzard does not get much clearer than that.
And before you say “well she will be the leader” no…Blizzard does not do subtle. If they wanted her to be the leader she would be, no explanation needed. See Lilian Voss.
That was in the context of Icecrown and the people up top lmao question was “why is Calia there”
This is literally just like the question of who burned teldrassil. Blizzard trying to twist words to insist its a mystery when it’s painfully obvious where they were going.
Well as someone who still likes Sylvanas, Nathanos, and Gallywix and hopes they all survive and return to the Horde, I hope you never lose that hope. You can’t kill hope as my old friend Sadfang once said.
Of course he’s dead and in eternal torment and suffering now so…
No, she gets also hate in Twitter, reddit etc. She has some “ma gold queen” fan art sure (the model helps and mostly from Alliance fans), but way les than Sylvanas or Bwonsamdi ever had.
Now this sounds like whisfull thinking. Knowing Blizzards writing. The fail was to bring her back with light in the first place.
Well, as I said.
No. Metzen did no such thing. Sure he was bussy with green Jesus during Cata. But this is below him.
There was nothing ever hinting at a light zombie, or Calia.
Even in Legion she said she was only Calia now.
I can agree with you that current Blizzard has writing isues.
You know most of these things will never happen. She could see some things done to the Forsaken, or positive aspects of the Horde. Sure. It won’t make her origin any better.
She will not “betray the Alliance”.
And why do you want to sell her as Sylvanas 2.0?
This is all just bad. It seems like this is all: Sylvanas ist eine, have is your new Not evil queen.
I meant Sylvanas turning into a Villain. Even if she does get the Kerrigan treatment probably.
Reddit yes Twitter no. On Twitter most everyone is supportive actually. Even the Twitter RP accounts admit it allows for creative development of their OC.
It is.
Where you think the Anduin “at any cost”, using void magic almost twice to kill someone in Shadows Rising plot points is going to go then?
And of course Maldraxxus is going to be involved in the Forsaken story moving forward, how else do you pretend Undercity is going to get fixed and the loss of all the Valkyr will be addressed?
That’s like pretending Ardenweald won’t be involved in restoring Teldrassil. It’s just not realistic.
Shadowlands only. Introducing the new “Azerith” / Anima of the expansion.
What? We seen nothing so far in this directoon. I don’t think Undercity will be fixed and every other problem. The thing with the Valkyr has to be adresed at some point. Key point is: at some point.
Ysera was personally revived by the Winter Queen and has made it her priority to save Tyrande and the end of the Joining Night Fae Covenant quest is rescuing all the Night Elf dead. And that’s just 9.0, at launch. There’s two years of Ysera and Tyrande left to write. Two years. At least 3 major patches and maybe 1 or 2 small patches of content.
Or are you one of the people surprised by BfA ending with Nzoth and you didn’t see it in 8.0?
Maldraxxus will be used to progress the Forsaken plot. I will bookmark this post to lord it over you in two years.
Turalyon is now the Alliance supreme commander, given his title and rank from Anduin himself (no word of speaking with any leader about it).
Seems like Anudin is simply the king of the Alliance now.
Admittedly I’m not in the alpha/beta, but as far as I’m aware only Wild Gods/Loa/Other beings on that scale get put into resurrection pods. All the “normal” people souls are turned into faun or animals that populate Ardenweald. Is there anything to indicate that Ardenweald even has the capability of mass-rezzing thousands upon thousands of nelves?
A child killer gets to live a happy after-life while innocent children Night Elves who were burned alive get to suffer for eternity in WoW hell because said child killer helped an Undead Elf torch there home to power herself, and people think it’s such a stretch for Arthus to be redeemed in Shadowlands.