This is not what was said and I encourage you to find the original quote 
If you donât think Blizzardâs kneejerk reaction to completely re-write all night elf lore to shoehorn the life guys into the death expansion isnât a result of night elf whining, all I can say is that youâre covering your eyes.
Night elf souls never, ever, ever went to the Shadowlands. Neither did night elf gods. Night elf souls stayed on Azeroth as whisps, or were turned into stars if they did something particularly noteworthy to Elune. Night elf gods went to the Emerald Dream.
They rewrote all of that because of night elf baby whining.
Well, forsaken need to baby whine like nightelves. Elsewise, theyâre going to be as ignored as they have been since launch.
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They were planning on this retcon since the onset of development, given the Danuser statements on how Ardenweald came to be and Bwonsamdiâs reshaped role there.
You are completely unrealistic to how Blizzard and their ego works if you think a bunch of divas in the Story Forum making a dozen threads a day actually did anything lol
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Nope. A bunch of divas on twitter/allforums/reddit made that change happen.
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lmaooooooo sure bud
They flat out admitted it for the Horde and Alliance both.
Cope.
Citation needed. Iâve been going over the interviews meticulously, yall just making stuff up.
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I think people are saying he was supposed to be evil but they changed it because people love him? Now that I think about it , I remember seeing something from his VA on Twitter asking if he can voice him again. Too cute
And yeah, they probably wanted to do 1.5 troll content. Iâm not happy with his inclusion in Ardenweald, but it seems to me that its the only way they could fit him in it. I can totally see why heâs Poâd and angry at Muehâzala. He chose to put his Afterlife realm in a fairy forest instead of⊠a midnight jungle with golden buildings? Heâs basically like âEyy mon, I be stuck in dis pretty glittery fairy forest, and I be havin no where else to go mon. I donât like dis!â
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Saurfang shoulders, Tyrande and Nathanos, etc.
Citation needed for your claim that:
and that,
Ion and Danuser both stated that fan feedback such as the shoulders off for saurfang movement, as well as the reaction to Tyrande v Nathanos changed how they wrote the expansion.
Citation needed 
but hereâs some that prove some of your points wrong, particularly regarding that the Forsaken plot wonât be addressed this expansion and that the Tyrande-Ardenweald-resolution wasnât planned from the onset.
Plot in Shadowlands
- Bizzard has set up a long/deep storyline for Shadowlands, and they know how the story ends and how it leads into things to come. Trying to learn from narrative stumbling blocks of BFA.
- One example to do better - have less ambiguous moments at the end of patches, they know some people were disappointed with BFA. They want people to feel like at the end of a patch, they are at a cool place and have enough ideas to do cool speculationâin a healthy way, vs a âlost and uncertainâ way. They want to give players more ideas and hints.
Tyrande is searching for answers from Elune. Will she find some peace in the expansion?
- Her story is a thread from BFA that couldnât just be wrapped up neatly by the end of the expansion.
- The loss of the Night Elves is a huge story and the team wants to give it the proper reverence.
Will the Forsaken be explored a bit more in Shadowlands?
- It will be a part of the story, it is a story that will not be rushed though. When a kingdom undergoes as much turmoil and change as the Forsaken in BFA, it takes some time for those things to play out.
Will the events of Shadowlands reverberate across Azeroth and beyond, or stay contained?
The things characters go through on personal levels will resonate beyond, such as Tyrande in BFA continued forward.
There are big implications for many characters that we know and love. This may also impact various kingdoms of Azeroth moving forward.
Expansion philosophy now doesnât limit a story to one expansion.
The departure of Sylvanas didnât only affect the Forsaken who had been loyal to her for years. Some of the night elves struck down in the War of Thorns felt betrayed and abandoned; these qualities were amplified after being raised into undeath and were capitalized upon by Sylvanas and Nathanos. Now free of the Banshee Queenâs command, these undead elves feel lost and hopeless, and so Calia Menethil and Derek Proudmoore have vowed to help them find a future rooted in something beyond than hatred and malice.
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See: Weâve completely rewritten the night elf lore and given them an entire zone. We give no such attention to forsaken. Thought Maladraxxus would be forsaken? Heh. Noname Draka, who received absolutely zero cheers at Blizzcon, is our representative. Other guys? Night elf lore Vashj? You bet. Human lore Ashbringer? Absolutely.
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Given that the Kaelâthas plotline is post-Castle Nathria, we still havenât touched Utherâs plot except seeing him for 3 seconds during leveling questing, and Maldraxxus at the moment is in a state of chaos due to civil war and weâd first need to find the Primus to set things in order let alone get the House of Plagues to help, donât you think you should be patient? Or you expect every single plot point resolved by the start of 9.1?
Who knows, maybe my prediction of us killing Kelâthuzzad is wrong and the Forsaken get to come back with Kelâthuzzad given his Phylactery is still on Azeroth in theory, and we get both Calia and Kelâthuzzad as the new Sylvanas and Varimanthas.
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Small help that does the Forsaken, whom we are discussing.
Small help that does the Forsaken, whom we are discussing.
Small help that does the Forsaken, whom have no characters at all in the zone.
No. Being patient didnât net the night elf baby whiners their wins.
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Okay so proceed with the incessant chorus of whiners who have the delusion that the whining reshaped the story that was written two years ago to begin with lol
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lmaoooooooo
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These two answers are really very different when you look at them, though. The response about the Night Elven story is two direct statements: it is a âhuge storyâ in one. Meanwhile, the Forsaken âwill be a part of the storyâ that âtakes time to play outâ.
Blizzard has shown they will make changes where possible to reflect fan and player reactions: the original state of the Darkshore patch and the state it launched in contained some small but fairly significant changes. The Forsaken have been thoroughly demonized and demoralized, and had half of their faction turned against them.
Call me cynical, but I sometimes see this as Blizz setting the Horde against itself so it couldnât speak with one voice. They were wildly successful, and as we can see now, the Horde is an utter shambles with no hope of change on the horizon.
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Same as you do.
I wonât. You will have to live with many people hateing on Calia for years to come. Bad writen nonsense will Not ne acepted. They did a lot of dammage.
I think you are wrong. When was the last time They listen to feedback for the story?
Thatâs of course true, but aleady Kate in the beta dir big story parts. So itâs even More important to say: Calia is a bad idea. If They want to go this route They will. Letâs hope They have are simply testing the water.
Thatâs not story. Those are two very different things. They also changed some things on the Zandalari model thanks to feedback.
The Horde still got itâs horrible BfA Story with yet another almost civil war.
Simply wrong.
- Shutting up is mot giving feedback.
- Critique is also feedback.
- The narrative is the problem.
- Feedback here will most likley be ignored.
- People are talking about the topic.
I wonât.
Same for me. I wasnât happy about Zulâjin nit Kaelâthas getting the villain baut and many things from them on.
If I quite itâs not because of Calia. But I was close to it during BfA. It could add to it sure.
People are doing this already and thatâs a good thing.
I donât see any, or much posabilities with a light zombie to be honest. But there are people doing exactly what you are calling for.
You are wrong. It will kill the Forsaken. And I donât even need the I play since WC 2 Cars and know the Forsaken since WC3 TFT.
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Sure I whine about the whiner but mostly because every single day on these forums for a few months now is Nelf players foaming at the mouth and Forsaken players throwing tantrums about Calia. Itâs dumb as hell.
This is unhealthy.
They included Bwonsamdi in Ardenweald due to feedback.
Absolutely none of the sections in 2 books involving Calia and the 4 questlines in 8.3 involving Calia read as âtesting the watersâ. Yall are in denial.
It really wonât. Itâll give a new functional direction for the Forsaken. This is nostalgia talking.
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