Shadowlands Shaman

Classes Shaman
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Now factor in that you can use Vesper totem twice as often.

1m CD vs 2m CD.

I am sure that if you can have 7-8 targets consistently, that it will be better AE DPS/healing. But when I think how often I have 7-8 targets up consistently, I am pushed away from wanting it.

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I wish, I feel Blizzard aren’t creative enough these days. Some 4th specs would of been a good filler for a lack of class this expansion.

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I didn’t say restro. I said enhancement. Enhancement’s primodial wave is…

Blast your target with a Primordial Wave, dealing (65% of Spell power + 65% of Attack power) Shadow damage and apply Flame Shock to an enemy or heal an ally for (65% of Spell power + 65% of Attack power). Your next Lightning Bolt will also hit all targets affected by your Riptide.

The post and initial Wowhead link I looked at didn’t have the cooldown on it, or the fact that it’s a channeled ability. That just moves Fea transfusion into trash. Hopefully it gets adjusted once it gets tested instead of just the datamined state it is in now.

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Actuallly you mixed them all up.

For Ele, it applies FS, and your next LvB casts on all targets affected by FS
For Enh, it applies FS, and your next LB casts on all targets affected by FS
For Resto, it applies Riptide on an ally, and your next HW casts on all targets affected by Riptide.

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I’m a casual player, so I don’t need everything to be optimal, so I use castsequence macros. I had to play around with target dummies for awhile to get the timing absolutely perfect.

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I have 59 or so binds i have available currently. Could squeeze some more in if I tried. Get a mouse that has binds on it, like a razor naga. Thats an additional 12 binds there. I use page up and down for less needed binds like astral recall, far sight etc. Buts thats only 10 binds, I still have 49 binds available by pressing it or using a modifier for that same bind.

Honestly unwieldy was MoP. Everyone had everything and WoD was when they realized this and began to unprune. We arent even at Classic/BC level of binds currently. Just prioritize importance of binds, use alt modifiers as well.

I have a gaming keyboard that allows me to macro buttons. I dont like the placement of alt so I changed caps lock to be alt and alt to be caps lock on my keyboard. This setup only launches when certain games launch, including wow. And when I exit the game it goes back to normal keyboard layout. I would suggest trying a gaming keyboard as well, that may help you and get you started on alt modifiers.

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If enhance plays like mop or wod it will be pretty simple rotation once you get used to it. I am honestly SO glad its moving away from builder/spender. Basically every class plays like that now and its dreadfully boring.

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Blizzard! In the most recent beta build I have noticed that there are 0 changes for Elemental shaman. Excuse me, what? 0 changes?!?!?!

Over the course of the pre-patch/beta of SL I have seen you slowly, bit by bit, remove fun engaging game play, and just plain power away from elemental shaman, culminating in the most idiotic change last week where you reduced our lava surge proc from 15% base to 10% base. Like you know Igneous Potential is going away when SL drops right? This change does so much more damage to the elemental spec than I think you realize. Not just in terms of numbers, but in terms of fun too. With less lava surge procs we will have less instant cast lava bursts which removes part of our mobility and part of the reward system that ele has in keeping your FS up on multiple targets (which you have already made harder btw). So less mobility and less fun. Also, it is a direct nerf to Master of the Elements which was previously one of our strongest talents (not overpowered by any means). So less lava surge procs means less MotE procs which means less damage for our other abilities. We will end up needing to hard cast non-empowered lightning bolts to keep our dps rotation going because of this, which is just the WORST gameplay experience for an elemental shaman. Actually the WORST. I want to emphasize how poor of a gameplay experience you are making elemental shaman.

Why do you feel the need to do this? Is this still left over contempt for the crazy ascendance non-sense that we were plagued by during the beginning/middle of the beta? If so, you know that’s not how we work anymore right? You got rid of that already, and props to you for that. It was silly and we all knew it.

Now that my ranting is over, I will propose what changes I believe are needed to correct the awful path you have gone down for elemental shaman. I do not believe in complaining without offering an alternate path forward. First of all I would like you to consider reverting the change to lava surge proc rate. “But its only a 5% reduction” I hear you say. Well not quite. As shown by Tiqqle it actually ends up reducing the amount of lava surge procs we get by about half. HALF?!!? Yes that’s right, we will be procing lava surge about half the rate. So please consider changing that back. If that’s not an option for you then don’t fret, I have more. If you insist on staying with the 10% proc rate, please consider removing the cd from Flame shock like in Legion. This will allow a much easier time to spread our FS and get the procs we need to make the spec work and be fun. However, this will only be the case of pulls with 3+ targets. Single target we will still have to hard cast non-empowered lightning bolts most likely.

The funny part is, I don’t even main ele. I main resto and have ele as my back-up spec because it is just plain fun back in BFA 8.3 and right now in pre-patch so it was heartbreaking to see that fun being slowly stripped away from the spec I have come to love. Enhancement needed some love, and it got some, and I want to thank the devs for that because I think Enhancement is in a much better spot now. It may need some numbers tuning but it is a complete spec now. Ele just isn’t anymore. PLEASE blizzard, over the next few weeks give ele the love it needs.

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Holy 7 month Necro batman

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SL Enhancement Shamans need help…

Enhancement Suggestions:

  • Replace Ethereal Form with Shamanistic Rage!
  • Lightning Shield and Earth Shield should be useable at the same time, again.
  • Lightning Shield should not be dispellable… Or if you want it to be dispellable, give us the 10% damage reduction back.
  • Give us back Shamanistic rage, we need mana regen and another defensive.
  • MSW should reduce mana cost by 20% per stack… Like it used to… you currently get 3.5 heals before you’re oom. Its not good and using MSW to sacrifice damage for healing does not feel good.
  • MSW should affect HEX again.
  • Flame Shock and Frost shock should NOT share a CD.
  • Lightning Bolt should be instant again but weak and then EMPOWERED by MSW. I loved using it as a pull in BFA and it felt so good with the mobility of enhancement. It isn’t going to break the class.
  • Lava Lash should spread Flame Shock again… (maybe even for 50% of the current duration/damage… SOMETHING… it doesn’t need to be op) because Fire Nova is completely USELESS .
  • Ghost Wolves need a little stronger boost in damage AND should heal again … I don’t care if they just give like 3-5 % leech while they are active… We need something.
  • Lava Lash feels lame and weak, it needs a little boost and can you just take away the weapon requirement so we can do 2H again? Why not? Again, we are aiming for player agency and fun. So many people want it… and listen, me personally, I am not a 2h shaman fan but would it really break the game? I don’t understand why Frost gets 2H back and Fury gets single minded fury but an iconic thing like 2H enhance is so off limits? Come on.

Talents

  • Level 15 Talents are all good. I think they are fine and I respect them.
  • Level 25 Talents: get rid of Ice Strike no one likes it, replace it with something else.
  • Level 30 Talents: All are fine, make Earth Shield useable with Lightning Shield.
  • Level 35 Talents: Fire Nova will only work if Lava Lash Spreads Flame Shock OR you just make it into a pulsing fire totem… Currently Enhance has NO fire totems.
  • Level 40 Talents: Nature’s Guardian should be baseline, you are absolutely punished in almost every Scenario when you don’t take it and I would love to use Feral Leap without feeling like I’m gimping myself.
  • Level 45 Talents: Crashing Storm is boring and lame, you have internal metrics… Can’t you see that literally no one uses it and if they do and I’m not aware… Please prove that it isn’t a dead talent maybe change it so it gives a few seconds of Earthquake!! That would make it more fun and interesting!! Stormkeeper is subpar and not fun, I would suggest changing it from 2 to 3 casts to justify its use over Sundering.
  • Level 50 Talents: Elemental Spirits are a gamble which is okay I suppose but compared to Ascendance who really wants them? You should move this to the level 25 tier to replace Ice Strike! That would be an excellent change! Earthen Spike, I’ve never liked it… some people like it so yeah I have no feedback. I’ll never use it… My last bit of feedback is for Ascendance… Please update the Ascendant model or give us a glyph like boomkins where we can be like a spirit version of our normal character so we don’t need to use that model?