Shadowlands is the least casual friendly expansion ever

PvPers used to be able to earn CP regardless of them doing rated or random PvP, one was obviously slower to get CP and one was quicker and this was fair because everyone can play at their own place and eventually get to the same reward.

Now the new system is the same as the old one with the addition of a rating requirement to get better gear, and this makes absolutely no sense for people who either aren’t playing the FOTM/meta class or don’t want to get into the rated PvP community at all.

RBG premades literally ask for 2k+ rating proof or they cherry pick meta classes and these things make sense to someone trying to push rating, but a casual PvPer whose being forced to get into this is going to be disappointed when no group picks him because of his spec or lack of rating.

This same problem is evident in M+ premades, anything above +7 has people only inviting based off 188+ iLevel and a casual player whose again being forced into this progression path is going to now have to figure out how to fit into this tryhard community that they never wanted to be a part of.

Even the Castle raid premades are cherry picking meta classes and going for optimal picks which leaves out a majority of players who are just trying to progress.

This is all compounded by the fact that loot drops even less now and it becomes an insane grind for a casual player to get a proper gear progression.

They should honestly rename this expansion to Grindlands because that’s what this feels like.

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Here, thought you might need this.

:cheese:

It’s easy to do rated, people keep overstating it…

I had zero rating, zero gear, posted in oqueue tool “2s for points” and me and another guy just bashed out multiple weeks worth of points (this was back in mop) over a couple of hours.

Go out, meet people, its not scary.

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I was really sceptical about the pvp gearing until this week, but now I’m actually really happy with the system.

There are lots of other ways to get conquest outside of rated, it should be very doable for casual players to cap conquest every week.

The only thing you are locked out of without doing any rated is the vault, and I’m ok with that.

I know I’m limiting myself by not doing rated, but I still have a path to competetive gear. That’s fair.

Basically this. I’ve never done rating hardcore but me and my buddies in guild just derp around and somehow win.

if you’re that casual why are you trying to run +8 or higher this week

start a group yourself and accept whomever you like!