Reading comprehension issue apparently since I already said I already don’t bother doing it.
Soul Ash is a tedious farm even on one character, I pointed out that it was in fact very time consuming if you actually do it on multiple characters.
Even if you were just on an alt and just wanted to do casual BGs or something you don’t want to be far behind in ilvl and get stomped.
Wanting to be on-par in certain “casual” content isn’t about “wanting several mains.”
Yeah this is first expansion I just have zero desire to play alts. WAYYYY too many systems, which for my main is great, but for alts it’s just too much. Oh well. I’m happy just playing my main
I don’t think it advertised itself as such, Its not alt friendly but definitely more alt friendly than BFA.
You don’t need to cap it every week for an alt. A 190 or 210 will suffice for most secondary characters, unless you plan on pushing cutting edge on an alt or something
You literally get a set of normal raid gear by doing your covenant quest line. Doesn’t get much more casual friendly than that if you ask me
No, you don’t. Not an alts, not unless you desperately need a legendary for said alts, and you don’t actually ‘need’ legendaries unless you’re doing high-end content. You don’t need them for heroics, M0 or even LFR/Normal raids. It’s nice to have them, and you should totally try to get them if you want to do high-end content, but given the RNG nature of legendary memory drops it may take you a while, so there’s no point forcing yourself through hours and hours of Torghast.
It’s also 100% true.
You do not need Anima, it is 100% optional. The only reason you need anima is if you want to upgrade your sanctum with optional upgrades or you want to do missions at the mission table. All of this is optional.
And? You can sell those for gold (a decent amount too) which will either allow you to buy higher ilvl rune vessels or buy more materials so you can craft more lower-end rune vessels.
You didn’t need to add the word alt … SL is just not friendly period.
Classes aren’t balanced, covenants aren’t balanced, dungeons have tuning issues, torghast has tuning issues, grind/grind/grind everywhere … and the best part of all for all those things that are harder AND more annoying … yep, that’s right … they made everything less rewarding.
The dev team for SL must be a sadistic bunch of sociopaths.
Technically you do need some anima for player power improvement. You need anima to upgrade your covenant set to 197, other than that though you’re right on the money
Actually, as far as things people “have to” do are concerned, nobody has to play the game at all.
You right.
If you actually do it is does take several hours a week.
If your argument is “well it’s not time consuming if you just don’t do it!” that’s nice, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s very time consuming and tedious to do on multiple characters. It’s tedious to do on even one.
Even if you don’t currently want another legendary on that alt, it’s nice to have soul ash saved up in advance in case you end up wanting one for a different spec or type of content.
The idea that you only should want or care about one 190 legendary on an alt is laughable.
Also, unless they’ve changed the unlocking system to be account wide like TC, even getting ONE legendary on an alt is extremely time consuming since you have to unlock all the layers the first time.
Once again, if the system is such trash that the answer is to just ignore it, the system clearly is bad and needs to be changed.
Sale rate depends on server. You’ll also be spending a lot more gold to make the amount you need to level it than just buying one.
Depends on the server and armor type.
I’ll never understand why people white knight for Blizzard on unfinished and poorly designed systems.
I think they believe they can turn around the game by removing rewards, which they believe will result in players playing for love of the game rather than because they see that gold ring off in the distance. They also seem to believe that decreasing the quality and quantity of content will result in lower player expectations.
A few hours of play each day is wasted if it’s spent repeating mundane content. Most players will look to other mediums instead as the slog is tiresome for one character let alone multiple.
I don’t think this is the case. In PvP those higher ilvl rewards give you a massive advantage over everyone else. They’ve put them even further out of reach for what most people are willing to do (mythic raiding or high rated PvP).
If they wanted people to play just for the fun of playing, they’d have gone back to a WoD era PvP gearing system at least so everyone can get on an even playing field in PvP and just have fun.
The changes have nothing to do with not wanting people on the treadmill, they just want to draw it out and make you stay on it even longer. The current dev team has no confidence that you’ll stick around if they aren’t constantly manipulating and herding you.
Meh, I have 3 characters to 60 now. All are done their covenant story lines, gotten renown up to date and are in various states of gearing up.
It’s not all that bad.
And I’ll never understand why super salty people like yourself that clearly despise the game are still here…
But here we are.
Alt friendly/unfriendly really depends on what your alts do. Really.
I found Legion very alt-unfriendly because I had to unlock daily quests on each character separately. I found BfA to be alt-neutral because they could get to the dailies as soon as my main unlocked them (yay!) but they needed a bunch of BoP mats to level professions, requiring me to drag them through raids and other content I don’t typically do with alts (boo).
So far, I’m liking Shadowlands for alts, mostly because ToF (and professions are way less grueling). It’s nice to be able to get started on dailies and renown right away. I might feel differently if all 12 of my characters were cutting-edge raiders, but they’re not. They’re just profession mules, pet battlers, and something fun to pick up when I’m in the mood for a different class for a minute. For that purpose, Shadowlands is everything I need it to be.
Because we’ve played this game for a long time, have valid feedback and know that the game could be better and want it to be better.
We aren’t sheep that just accept the status quo and assume Blizzard knows best.
God forbid they expect you to play a game.
I have 8 level 60s at the moment. 7 of them are at renown 26, the 8th is at renown 18. 5 have 197 covenant gear, 1 need 2 more 197, 1 is at 190 and my last one is two pieces away from the full set and is 184 with the pieces he does have.
I have 2 legendarys so far and am waiting for the pattern for my shaman and hunter to drop.
The bottom line is that it isn’t impossible to have alts in this expansion. I just pick who needs what and work on that aspect when I finish with my covenant weekly quests.
I felt a similar way at release OP, but the truth is its really not that hard. My prot warrior alt is nearly 60, and now that renown catch up is up to where it is, couple days and he will be 190 ilvl + through PVP and renown catch up.
Only real annoying part will be the soul ash grind and getting the right legendary.
Multi-speccing, however, that’s an argument I’d agree is very hard to do on multi characters, especially with this horrendous soul bind / conduit / talent swapping system - where you can’t make presets for each spec and have to constantly go to the sanctum and use that conduit power. Very annoying.