I wanna cry guys.
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Just let it all out friend, but donât get any on your keyboard.
Welcome to the Crying Circle just hold the hands of the nearest person and let it rain. Once youâre done there is a Rage Circle forming somewhere on the forum you are more then welcome to join us there.
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How is this acceptable in any way? They havenât given a single word of feedback. At this rate, âalphaâ will be final release and they might finally see a problem by then which will be too late to fix. I cannot even comprehend their silence.
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its hilarious that the main reason they have started alpha sooner is so they can get feedback and respond to it but then literally do not address the concerns of a spec that everyone who touched in alpha have stated how horrible it is. Multiple times and when asked directly about the spec they say âwe gonna wait for all systems to be implementedâ which means we are working on more borrowed power to band-aid it. By the way beta usually starts in June so⊠I bet we gonna get the âIts to late now to make any drastic changes it betaâ.
a lot of people tried to shut us up by saying âits alpha stop whining about everythingââŠwell alpha gonna end soon and not a single respond from Blizz.
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People that say âits alpha stop whining about everythingâ clearly have never played a blizzard game before. I feel writing forum posts in rage will not accomplish anything because they donât care enough to notice clearly.
I understand the frustration, but I have to do a hard-check on you here man. That is a bridge too far, just like Bus Shock was. There are some things that we shouldnât EVER even say, and when they pop into our brain; must be banished and crushed back to the nether.
This is a game ultimately.
Even if they disregarded Priests till timeâs end that is never an acceptable thing to even discuss.
So please edit your post.
That being said, I would say that people who say âItâs only Alphaâ are intellectually dishonest, and there is a bit of truth in the other part of your post. If people donât complain up front and from the start, nothing is done. Blizzard in this regard are willfully or intentionally ignorant.
I donât like to have to say that, but again itâs their record and deeds that I fault, not any specific individual. I remember being in Warlords Beta and I had to repeatedly remind Blizzard that Priests graphical effects sucked by comparison to Mages which had received multiple updates. Saying âItâs only Alphaâ leads to âItâs only betaâ followed by âItâs Live.â.
I fully believe we are being ignored, but that being said but I will give Watcher at least time till the 9th to give us some real updates. COVID-19 is a factor we need to keep in mind. Iâm not saying it should be permitted to be a excuse to allow Blizzard to merrily continue in their design malpractice where it relates to Priests, but we need to remember that it âhasâ screwed things up.
As I see it, we were promised a major change that was delayed in 8.2, because âMid Expansion. We donât redesignâ. Alright. Fine. Theyâve had 51 days in the Alpha now. They will have another 100 or so before this Expansion ships.
I know they know very well we are beyond pissed off at what they did in Legion. Preach and other podcasters have mentioned Shadow sucks. Whether they choose to acknowledge and fix their screw up is on them. If you see this thread with a title of â151 days with no changes or infoâ, then I would say itâs time to be angry.
Truth is, while it was unacceptable what they did in Legion, how they delayed Zandalari / KulâTirans, and how they used a form of false advertising to buff pre-orders with the Eternal Traveler Set; none of these things merit or ever justify making threats toward another human being over a computer game.
Were the above mentioned deeds scummy? Yes, absolutely. BFA was a laundry list of wasted potential, because we had to have Sylvanas, Sylvanas, Sylvanas. But we can be better humans and just take our business elsewhere. We do not need to descend to that extreme. If they canât provide a solid experience for my sub, Iâll cancel again. Simple as that.
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I really donât understand a lot of the design decisions Blizzard makes. Not that it necessarily makes me angry, although at a certain point it will. But they just donât really make sense from a âgood designâ point of view.
They relent on certain things but not others, such as unpruning some playstyles such as two handed for Frost DK, which is massively incongruent with how the spec works in modern times. Yet they are steadfast about Survival Hunter being a melee spec, seemingly just out of pride (as no other reasoning has been given for returning choice to other specs but not them). How would more choice hurt the game? They could just revert auto attack damage with a ranged weapon back to full damage, and switch a couple weapon requirements. Even that would make SOME people happy, and anger no one because it wouldnât be removing anything.
They cannot use the excuse of balance anymore, classes and specs have been cycled through wild imbalances over the course of BFA and the multi power systems approach on top of classes is embarrassingly even more imbalanced. Some essences and corruptions even a casual player can see would be terribly underpowered compared to others.
They added the GCD to a ton of stuff in BFA and then had to add on use effects to a lot of skills just to make them feel like it doesnât suck to press the button. But they only did it with a few, and it took until the alpha now to add another for Outlaw. When they made this decision why not apply the design to EVERY cooldown that was affected like this? Is that not more consistent design with more integrity?
The lack of communication on why they do things and why they donât do others leaves everyone feeling frustrated for no good reason. I often find myself thinking âthey canât even take the time to minorly balance some talents/essences/Azerite traits for specs that are suffering to create a better experience for those players on the live game, so what are they spending all their time on? The alpha? But then thereâs barely any changes to classes in the alpha so then the question again is what are they spending their time on?â
There always seems to be some excuse but when the game releases will it truly feel like all of their time was well spent, working on the things that really needed attention? I donât know anymore.
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Unless they remove voidform/insanity or make it an optional talent then itâs truly over for Shadow Priest.
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Watching some of the AWC this weekend, couple of spriests games. Each team with an spriest was farmed. Sad times. Basically, there is PvP, and a lot of people forget about that and how literally useless void form is in PvP.
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Shadow Priest has been utter garbage in PvP ever since Voidform was implemented into the game. Donât forget that just recently the only way you could make Shadow Priest work in PvP was if you picked a PvP talent called Edge of Insanity that rewarded you for NOT activating Voidform 
. Just further goes to prove that voidform has caused more problems than any other mechanic put into the game in recent years. How utterly EMBARRASSING for Blizzard!! What a joke of a company.
Shadow Priest was great for PvP in vanilla, tbc, wotlk, cataclysm, mop and wod. It stopped being great once legion began. We all know why.
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I PvPed only a little bit in Wrath as I was more interesting in the story/raiding scene and building up my gold on GDKP ICC runs lol.
But every other era of WoW I participated and enjoyed PvP.
Once Legion came, I was in utter disgust and thankfully the Demon Hunter proved to be a fun alternative in both PvP and M+ which I âwasâ looking forward to with my Priest prior to Legion Spec revamp.
I really want to enjoy playing my priest again.
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by the way they removed Edge of Insanity from the game. they really wanna force us to play the spec in a certain way. I guess the talent was promoting âDegenerative gameplayâ 
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So straight up edge of insanity was dumb, but it was obviously the result of void form being complete a$$ and even dumber. I love how instead of fixing the actual problem of void form, blizz just got rid of edge and said, " No you must deal with our sh1t".
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I didnât say I was going to threaten anyone, nor did I promote it pal. Just said blizzard wouldnât listen unless there was a drastic action taken. It was an exaggeration to say how little player opinion means to them 
So not activating voidform is degenerate gameplay yet voidform itself is perfectly fine⊠yeah, the future of shadow priest is not looking very bright. What are you doing Blizzard??? Get rid of Ion and all these other developers that have pestered the game over the last expansions.
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NA arena team The Move was using shadow priest all weekend and was on brink of elimination. Their spriest player swapped to destro lock and now they are in the grand finals for the weekend. Void form is fine though. 
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It was really enjoyable watching the move (golden guardians) play. Wizk is probably the best Shadow Priest in the game PvP wise, heâs insane. And as you mentioned heâs also pretty good when he has to swap to Destro 
This is kinda off topic but destro locks, fire mages, and mw monks are completely broken in PvP and are ruining the game.
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I would absolutely welcome back the damage reduction and Vampiric Embrace as a passive. It would give us SOMETHING to work with.
Also, Iâd hate this spec far less if theyâd make Void Bolt castable, Insanity generation and all, outside of Voidform.
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You insinuated it, and I note itâs been taken down accordingly. Thank you for that.