They also mentioned in the preach interview that they are looking into making Torghast anima power the legendary effects. I think seeing the minimum effort put into class development that’s what most likely gonna happen.
the fact that they are recycling legendary effects rather then creating engaging ones based on how the classes have changed is extremely disappointing.
like damn they really don’t seem motivated to work on this expansion…but then again they know people are addicted to the game and will play no matter what so…
Aren’t the torghast ones like, generic, roll-specific effects and not spec related at all? Why would anyone want that lol.
i know right but that’s what Morgan said to Preach. He said that the dev team is actually looking at Torghast anima powers for Legendary effects.
I’m telling you the effort put in this expansion seems bare minimum.
It could still serve a purpose. It could still provide stacking haste, and even damage increase to dots, or our direct spells
The major culprit is Auspicious Spirits. They need to be untied from crit. If they stopped spawning on crit, our stats would stop interacting with one another, and voidform would stop scaling the way it does.
It would make Shadow a very fast, haste focused spec, but it wouldn’t be interacting with crit and scaling out of control.
To quote what a friend of mine used to say, getting banned by Endus or Edge- for wrong-think is a rite of passage. Besides everyone knows that website’s mods are total jokes. WoWhead is far better, and Perc is a queen among women.
That being said folks, lets not fight among ourselves. Even if we dislike someone’s idea, remember Blizzard is going to try and divide us as a collective. That’s what they do every time. We need to stay completely focused on the major problem here.
Shadow Priest needs massive changes.
Doesn’t matter what the changes are, they need to become less ramp up oriented and they need to change Voidform’s gameplay. Because aside from the token people who come here to say it’s ‘awesome’, I think most of us are united by those commonalities, and we cannot compromise on that until we see meaningful change, or recieve meaningful dialogue.
Day 47 now.
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Endus is a garbage human and the main reason I don’t post on that website. He is so politically biased, so slavishly devoted to political correctness and so wrong about literally every issue and he abuses his power CONSTANTLY. I 100% bet you he posts religiously on ResetEra.
Endus sounded so familiar. It hit me, the hellboy avatar mod.
100000% sure he’s a resetera acolyte.
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Just saw the Night Fae covenant abilities for shadow priest. What the actual hell is happening? Just utter trash. It’s starting to feel less like Blizzard is merely designing shadow priests poorly, as much as it is they are intentionally scuttling the class.
The core complaints raised around spriest in this thread and others remain, notably the complaints around voidform, insanity, rotation, damage ramp, etc. Not only are none of these addressed (other than shrugging and saying “we’re looking at it”), the problems continue to accumulate as basically none of the new “features” getting introduced look good for spriest.
It’s maddening to see a class that many of us have played for over 10 years get ruined by either neglect or terrible design (jury is out on which), and to see Blizzard express so little interest in communicating intent, or express any apparent interest to fix it.
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I think the “vision” that Blizz has is for the Priest class to make everyone else look better by comparison thereby stamping out any crazy outcry from everyone else because blizz can just point to the Priest and say “your better then those guys”.
Basically, we are treated like the ugly friend that makes the rest of the group more attractive by comparison and it artificially boosts/inflates the egos as such.
Its quite brilliant yet deviously deceptive… Sounds like Blizzard lol.
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Well, I think at least for my part I have to now reanalyze my stance on Blizzard, where it relates to this thread. To be sure, Blizzard has neglected Priest for 2 expansions. However, today I just saw the thing that we all thought was ‘umpossible’ (mispelling intentional), happen.
Void Elves can be Blood Elves can be High Elves.
Does it have anything to do with the state of Priest? No.
Is it relevant however? Potentially.
It shows something that I thought Blizzard was incapable of now. Heeding feedback.
Coming from someone who started out playing a Human originally, I cannot stress how big this change is, especially given the repeated vetos over the years that it has been given, and the tenacity of the playerbase. The fact that it ‘has’ happened, changes a lot of my perception on Blizzard. I say that because if they are willing to change position that long held stance; it shows that pretty much anything is on the table.
That’s what I’ve longed to see a return to with the company. While I still maintain that the current incarnation of Shadow Priest and Voidform is indeed badly designed and very unfun, I would submit to all of us to maybe be a little more positive in our posting. Something like the High Elf situation finally ending after 13+ years is huge.
Maybe with feedback we will get our Priests back to where we want them to be. Maybe even down the road CRZ will eventually get replaced with something superior, allowing the mega-events I miss seeing on WRA to happen again.
I’ll be staying with the Horde for certain, but such news does give me some hope for the direction things may go this expansion. With that in mind, I recommend we continue discussing the matter; but take a more measured ‘wait and see’ approach for now.
Remember. Blizzard has not said “Voidform is here forever” yet.
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Highly doubt that giving us some skin options and eye colors is on the same level of change as the fundamental mechanic of a spec but there is a huge event on June 9 that ion will be hosting. they will discuss the expansion and more specifically things they are working on and developing…so we will see I guess.
I never said it was, but until I hear the hard veto that it’ll be business as usual with Shadow; I merely suggest being a little more upbeat and optimistic. We could very well be pleasantly surprised. Didn’t know about the June 9th post, but good to have something to look forward to. =)
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the thing is they have said numerous times that all major changes to classes are already implemented…however, they also said no blue eyes or High elf options so…
I guess being a bit optimistic is not gonna kill me however I have to say this whole mental games of “No we are not gonna do this” to “Surprise we were joking here you go” is not cute at all.
staying consistent to their word builds trust while flip-flopping makes people more frustrated and deceived. With that being said I’m praying for a Shadow rework announcement 
Reading that post, there is no mention of the word “High” as far as I can see.
The entire premise of allowing “High Elves” as an playable race (which is what the argument/feedback from the player base) I think was leaning a bit more on an actual different race that is separate from Blood Elf and Void Elf entirely. The now “option” to choose blue eyes and thus labeling that type of “elf” as a “high” elf is just something the player base is running with without any official statement by Blizz (unless im missing something).
For the record, I’m all for having options and in this case, options with appearance etc. but I was also in agreeance with Blizzard statement when they said that Blood Elves (and by extension Void Elves) are High elves because they were before events happened that changed them. Yet I recall the playerbase still not satisfied with such a statement and wanted a new race of elves solely on the Alliance and separate from the Void Elves (though i think your diluting options and uniqueness by going that route) so its surprising that everyone is all happy now just because blue eyes are an option? Well i guess I can say that’s an easy win for Blizz but I thought the player base wanted more then just an eye color option.
Without going into details as it’s off-topic for the thread, suffice it to say the argument was that Blood Elves were somehow an inferior or demon tainted race, and that they were not High Elves.
The Thalassian Elves like humans, are still their race. Just possessed of different politics. Now with these changes, things are finally as they should be, while allowing High Elves that defect from the Horde and become Void Elves to look proper.
There will be of course the purists who cry till the cows come home about the name “Void Elf”, but Blizzard relenting and reversing course on this and offering the customization is huge; and cannot be understated.
Lets be honest. It’s been unheard of till now for Blizzard to ever change ‘anything’ up. That carved in stone mentality has been the complaint of many of us. Well today they went full on Charlton Heston mode, and smashed the proverbial tablets.
I merely say, good on them. Shows that maybe there is a chance we’ll be listened to.
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I think what Lacryma was trying to say that over the years Blizz have said no for High Elves as a playable race but now they are compromising by giving the playerbase options to look like a high elf. It shows that they are willing to listen and respond. I think that’s what Lacryma was trying to say.
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For some reason I think we will either not be mentioned or just the same old statement of “awareness of problem” etc.
I would love to hear something that can inspire some talk and hope about the future direction etc. But I dunno, as much as I want that, I have difficulty thinking that is anywhere near a point of topic.
With the phrase “upcoming content” was mentioned, somehow I don’t think class issues is “content”. Maybe im wrong though.
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Don’t forget the “we are waiting until all systems are implemented” which is code for “we are trying to band-aid the spec with borrowed power”…But most likely we will be unmentioned.
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All I can say is that I called it.
Horde got blood elves for nonsense reasons because their population was low, Alliance population’s been languishing so now Ally gets pseudo-Tolkien elves back. All population imbalances are fixed with elves, lol.
But if my logic is right, the only thing that might bode well for priest is if there is a shortage of healers again.
I don’t think that will effect Shadow because sense legion they been giving Healers more dps spells to be able to do most of content.