Stop complaining over lack of quality Horde characters… You people should have known better when I warned you.
Prepare yourself to moar of Thrall’s mommy and daddy issues that frankly are irrelevant for the Horde narrative and potential Horde character bashing in Shadowlands. And us working AGAIN for Tyrande et al while she treats us as scum.
I’m prepared to brave that just for a chance to see Kael’thas again… Maybe an echo of his wc3 self (what can I say, I’m a glutton for punishment).
No.
No, but story continuation is good.
No strawman dude, you literally posted the narrative was to “fix” poor wittle Talanji being saddled with her evul daddy selfish machinations (which actually becomes incoherent when one thinks about it)
Then why did you post this?
They could not achieve closure without killing Sylvanas.
Because it will help.
Yes it was.
You said that I said that the enitre Horde leveling experience was Rastakhan’s secret plot to defeat a rando. No where did I say or imply that.
The opening of G’huun’s raid scenario led to Rastakhan’s loa dying, him selling his bloodline to a death god for power, and using that power to pointlessly kill a nobody instead of heroically dying to stop the old god super minion from freeing the old god from his prison.
Honestly, I don’t feel like Sylvanas is the night elves’ nemesis or the one they need closure with. And it irks me because the situation with the Horde -could- be resolved, but the story doesn’t put any effort into it. Hopefully that’ll be in the book, but hey, Sylvanas apparently can kill hope.
Oh joy, another pre-expansion book that will barely move the story around in order to hype pre-orders.
Also, I’m sick and tired of Sylvanas. Just kill her off already.
I’m gonna press X to doubt on that one. Blizzard deserves no faith after this many disappointments regarding the mishandling and abuse the night elf story has gotten.
He was taking out the blood troll army, someone had to do that job you know? Besides Zul coming back to life was pointless since he died some minutes after he is resurrected to buy some time to G’huun
Sira really racing with Cordana for the title of ‘worst Warden ever’, isn’t she? Also, if the Alliance winning Darshore is canon… how the hell is Sira still alive or free?
Wardens are the si:7 of the nelves why are people surpised
Barring what happens in Arathi, nothing of consequence came from these warfronts. The Night Elves got back their land back and I guess the Horde lost the new fort they made in Arathi. None of the commanders were lost. Just spinning wheels.
Actually, Rezan died WAAAY before the raid was made available to the public… and that happened precisely because Rastakhan subestimated Zul´s influence and power. Poor Rastakhan still subestimated Zul and believed killing him would have prevented the disaster.
Wrong, he did it because he literally had no other way to counter Zul´s machinations and power. The way you phrase it you make it saound as if Rastakhan killed Zul and then went to get a drink or something regardless of the HUGE Old God giant destroying the seal.
Uhh… the same old god minion that literally needed the power of an actual Loa (not the empowerment of one, but an actual freaking Loa -Sethraliss Treng. How dare you -I mean I know that dungeon sucks, but Sethraliss is quite cool, man!!- to merely contain him (and with the help of the seals too!!).
It was all the same storyline, dude.
And importantly, one that seemed to build Bwonsamdi up as a nemesis for the Zandalari and the Horde. He knew Rezan was about to die.
So if he didn’t get power out of selling his daughter and her future children to Bwonsamdi, what did Rastakhan get out of it?
Actually, muck this whole guiding you to the correct answer.
“BWONSAMDI! WE HAD A DEAL! GRANT ME YOUR POWER!”
Sure. That’s why I said die heroically to stop him instead of just stop him.
More importantly, he had flaws. He was prideful, but a good king/queen cannot bend to doubt. In the end, it cost him. Then we get an entire zone of helping him recover and find a new way, and then he gets axed in favor of “The young, impulsive character was right all along”.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Talanji, but Rastakhan has been hinted at and whispered about since Vanilla, we see the results of his complacence in MoP, and then he’s finally introduced for real and given some fantastic characterization in BFA and then tossed into the wood-chipper.
I’m of the opinion that someone like Rastakhan couldn’t be around as a “Horde leader”. Like Talanji, he would not join the Horde but make allies of it, but unlike Talanji, his force of personality would walk all over every other Horde leader in a room.
And you don´t see the irony AND the incoherence on the incoming novel basically contradicting this? I mean if Bwonsamdi is the “baddie” cursing Talanji then wtf is the hero part on Talanji´s narrative in saving his sorry buttocks??
You still ignore the reason WHY he did it. And no, it wasn´t because he wanted just to kill Zul for chill reasons. Killing Zul was fundamental in countering his evident old god influence on Zandalar and the people living there.
More like dying idiotically. He would have gotten himself killed and Zul fully empowered on Zandalar´s throne.
At least tyhis way he actually protected his daughter´s legacy, not left it intact for his enemy to usurp.
100% true. Rastakhan was awesome, much better written than his bland “strong female” modern writting tier daughter.
I swear, actual stronge female characters kinda died in the 80´s with some fortunate sporadic exceptions making apparition on the 2000´s. The current vision of a strong female is the worst cringe ever (and that´s me as a woman saying it. Helen Ripley, Beatrix Kiddo and Sarah Connor are still queens regarding this trope).
No it wasn’t. The cutscene even has a moment where Rastakhan looks between old god evangelion and zul. He chooses zul, and his people die for it. zul even mocks him for his singlemindedness.
That wasn’t really just Rastakhan’s choice, though. During the scenario Talanji specifically tells the player to go help Rastakhan eliminate Zul while she and the loa keep Mythrax engaged. Basically all protagonists present were convinced at the time that taking out Zul was the key to ending the active threat to Dazar’alor.
The daughter was obeying the vengeance-craving king?