Shadowlands Benched for TBC

Is this the new “Classic will kill Retail post”? I cant wait to see how long this trend lasts.

But they don’t though.

The only separate teams that exist at Blizzard are which email inbox or microsoft teams tag they use when submitting data.

HR and Marketing and Internal IT Support and Product Development may be separate teams.

POSSIBLY, for some junior employees, they might keep Top Secret projects reserved only for veteran staff at first stages of development until they isolate and segment the assets to protect them from being leaked and divide the developers up via access and roles so there is less overlapping potential risks for leaks even if multiple developers wanted to work together.

Leaks pay good money. It’s a good subsidiary income for any tech company employee that can get away eith it…

You’re straight up talking out your ears. The facts are plastered all over linkedin. Devs work on multiple development teams.

Only the most ridiculously niche skillsets would work on just one game, but an overall games developer versed in thr scripting language used for ALL WOW iterations (it’s the same engine) is going to be using the same tools to work on both games so why wouldn’t blizzard capitalize on that like literally every single other software developer on the planet does.

You are a cultist follower with a completely programmed mind if you have convinced yourself otherwise simply because the overiding narrative doesn’t align with your fantasy of Blizzards Operations. Thus being vastly different than what is taught in every major scholastic instutution across the planet regarding software development cycles and efficiency? Do they have their own college too?

I mean, Classic is obviously doing well. Especially since Blizz is trying to monetize TBC Classic as much as they can. Basically demonstrates its just too juicy of a whale for them to pass up.

That said, they are appealing to two different markets with Classic and retail so there’s not such thing once killing the other. The question is ultimately, which market is the best for Blizzard to prioritize. And that may very well spell the end for retail. At least at the flagship.

No its arguing that Classic isnt profitable; but selling nostalgia only goes so far

Regardless; its all the same money at the end of the day. Classic money probably gets funneled into other projects because it doesnt require as much manpower to build it.

Well since I don’t know Sally, never worked with Sally, or even know how much Sally can carry - I would have no idea. And since you don’t work for Blizzard, you don’t know Blizzard (though I’m sure you think you do) and you have no idea how many resources they have working on a giving project, neither do you.

The TBC team is like, 2 people. Stop being crazy people.

Found the conspiracy theorist.

Dude just use your head. Retail is still being developed, as is Classic. They’re not pulling resources from Retail just for Classic. It doesn’t require a lot of work, and hence it has its own team.

They’re not making new spells, animations, environments, etc… they’re just making a private server for Blizzard. The only reason you’re thinking this way is because you’re on WoWhead and are seeing TBC news. Which, shocker, of course it would be there the beta just launched last week.

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Please point me to the actual data, news release and/or internal Blizzard memo that says - Dear employees – Please do nothing on shadowlands and all energy devote to TBC.

THE MAGE WATER IS TURNING THE SETHRAK LGBT - Viserion Jones

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I was gonna reference that but chose not to. :laughing:

Thanks for doing it for me.

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Not sure I agree. I once held your opinion btw. As someone who played in Vanilla, I saw Classic and thought people were just fascinated because it was so old that it became new. It was pandering to nostalgia and that it would die off very quickly after the steamers were done hyping it.

But Classic has a lot of staying power. Way more than I initially thought. Obviously that train only goes so far though. WotLK is the zenith of WoW to many people. But that will present WoW with some very interesting choices. Do you reboot the series in the same vein as Classic? Do you continue forward but build on Cataclysm with additions and flesh it out as they originally intended?

I don’t think Classic has limitations like you are inferring. Rather Classic actually has more potential than retail currently does.

No, it really doesnt. People want to play Classic for nostalgic factors. The game is already solved.

What potential does it have?

No, not Blizzard specifically. But I do have experience working for multiple Software Development companies, from multinational global to single site local, and I can assure you that not a single one of them had a single developer working on one single product for any specific duration of time, permanent or temporary, with any specific designation, outside of the examples set forth above.

Sometimes you may be primary live support duty for one specific product, but that is a rotating on-call shift that bounces around the team. No, one person, is solely responsible for the support of any given product indefinitely. That is insane!

Also, I do know a lot about Blizzard, being that I was an engineer for some of their EMC Hybrid Cloud Storage Arrays before EMC was even acquired by DELL.

I can tell you that when I had to call the site to schedule onsite clearance, it was literally Deckard Cain who answers the phone.

That seems to be your opinion only? Unless you have something factual to back up that claim.

If Classic were only sheer nostalgia then people would literally quit after just a few days. Because nostalgia only sustains so much interest.

The point i’m trying to make is that Shadowlands is an unfinished product and that we would be better off going back to the last expansion

And it’s already disproven. There’s SO many Naxx logs. People stuck around and played Classic like crazy.

Servers dont drop layers just for fun.

No we aren’t. There’s a lot of issues I still have with BfA, one of them was Azerite gearing. A broken mess of traits that only benefitted certain classes while other specs and classes got left behind the entire expansion in regards to traits, essence farming on each character with the illusion of “catch up mechanics”

lock outs still behind the mission table and farming essences only from certain places yet being BiS for your class. Upgrading …piles and piles of gear, ilvl disparity with regards to the RNG of traits…you got an ilvl upgrade but your new set of traits is garbage. grats!

Classic+ servers and Fresh Classic. They’d be foolish to get rid of Classic only servers, but releasing servers that are starting from phase 1 and adding more content in the same vein as Classic to some servers would attract players that are into more old school games.

If I remember correctly, layering was only supposed to be in phase 1 regardless of population sizes.

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This is correct.

Some servers basically broke (palge US says hi) when they did that so they had to give us layering again and again and again when patches came out.

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