Shadowlands AOE cap is already breaking old content

[Nippyss-barthilas (Nippyss)]

Trash will still be destroyed in most cases by 1 button push, maybe two

The trash will not mean anything

People are complaining about a worse case situation of having to pressing maybe two buttons

[Melantin-bonechewer]

I’m mostly indifferent. Game used to play like this so its nothing new.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Carhagen-moon-guard

You can still play the game perfectly fine with this change

I can cut off my arm and still live perfectly fine as well, doesn’t mean I should cut off my arm

@Carhagen-moon-guard

you just have to alter the way you run old content

I’d just have to alter the way I live life

@Carhagen-moon-guard

Instead of pulling all the things, you just have to go through pack after pack, which is not as difficult as it sounds, nor as slow.

You are out of your mind

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Nippyss-barthilas

People are complaining about a worse case situation of having to pressing maybe two buttons

Didn’t you made this thread?

Plz god not bandits guile again

Got readded as a legendary Doesn’t specify the amount of damage but for the love of god I hope this isn’t our default one Hated that mechanics And it’s 30% Blizzard plz

Just saying, for somebody who is complaining about somebody complaining about pressing more buttons, you sure are complaining about pressing more buttons there. Which bandit’s guise last time i check, requires you to press the combo building abilities (like Mutilate or something) buttons 12 times i think (it’s been 5 years after WoD, i might have forgotten, but i remember that this is something you had to take into account as a combat rogue.) to get a 30% damage increase buff and have that do that all over again.

[anon47822198]

Not putting much thought into this, I believe they are just trying to slow down M+. There is literal no other reason to do this. Slow everything down, TiMe PlAyED MetRICZZZZZ.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Carhagen-moon-guard

That’s literally how I run old content already on all of my characters. I don’t need to pull all the things at once, I just burn them down as I go

Some people like to be efficient

@Carhagen-moon-guard

and if you’re that desperate for a few extra seconds, you can leave loot on the corpses ensures that it ends up in your mailbox after you leave the raid.

That only works for boss loot, if you want to convince blizz to change it so all gold, grays, greens, blues, recipes, etc get mailed to me from all mobs I kill I won’t stop you

[Autai-wyrmrest-accord]

Remove in legacy content. ez

[Ithost-illidan]

SIMPLE FIX: Remove AOE cap for legacy content

[Carhagen-moon-guard (Carhagen)]

@Nuamooa-zuljin

Yeah, old content. Old content designed to be played by at-level players, who will still be doing old content while leveling.

Sure it will be trivial to you as a 110. It won’t be trivial in a level 30 dungeon for level 30’s.

Again, no. The AoE caps are not going to kill that content for at level players either. You’re doomsaying. Literally no one that has played the beta is arguing that leveling content is somehow disrupted by these changes. The only people who are arguing that it will are people who aren’t playing the beta and thus have no idea what they’re talking about.

It’s a convenient thing to point at to rationalize an argument that no one with knowledge of how things work are actually making.

@Kaurmine-area-52

You are out of your mind

Says the person comparing a game change to cutting off their arm. Seek some help champ.

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Carhagen-moon-guard

Says the person comparing a game change to cutting off their arm. Seek some help champ.

Well it’s the same thing figuratively I like when you guys pretend you don’t understand that though

[Kaurmine-area-52]

@Carhagen-moon-guard

The only people who are arguing that it will are people who aren’t playing the beta and thus have no idea what they’re talking about.

Hm, I wonder what you’ll say when PTR is here and everyone has access.

@Carhagen-moon-guard

It’s a convenient thing to point at to rationalize an argument that no one with knowledge of how things work are actually making.

waiting for PTR

[Heartx-windrunner]

This is completely idiotic. Unholy is already garbage in single target because of being locked in gcd most the time, now they’re killing aoe.

Why does blizzard insist on making changes like this? Aoe was fine this whole time and suddenly they want to put a cap on it? COME ON BLIZZ.

[Haavi-barthilas (Haavi)]

@Chroesire-bleeding-hollow

This isn’t really new. I don’t remember which xpac changed it, but as I remember it, this distinction existed in WotLK and earlier

Legion was when most of it happened. Up until Legion most melee style AoE abilities had target caps, and all AoE abilities had a softcap with diminishing returns at I believe 10 targets.

@Heartx-windrunner

This is completely idiotic. Unholy is already garbage in single target because of being locked in gcd most the time, now they’re killing aoe.

Unholy is actually one of the winners of this change, currently they are one of the only melee classes that doesn’t have mass target caps.
Scourge Strike still hits all targets in DnD even in SL.

[Maleficious-wyrmrest-accord (Maleficious)]

I think the only ‘major’ change for them is that the Bursting Sores talent has a cap of 8 targets per pop. The diseases still spread as normal, so Unholy will still be pretty good at AoE regardless.

[Heartx-windrunner]

Dnd is 5 target capped. It no longer allows ss to hit all targets.

[Skeledon-barthilas]

Way off buddy,

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[Haavi-barthilas (Haavi)]

@Maleficious-wyrmrest-accord

I think the only ‘major’ change for them is that the Bursting Sores talent has a cap of 8 targets per pop. The diseases still spread as normal, so Unholy will still be pretty good at AoE regardless.

That and Outbreak or whatever will only spread on the cast instead of having the X second spreads to nearby target stuff.

@Heartx-windrunner

Dnd is 5 target capped. It no longer allows ss to hit all targets.

Citation needed for that. None of the slow duration damage over x seconds like DnD, Blizzard, Rain of Fire etc were capped.

Also how is Blood DK supoosed to manage as the only AoE capped tank if that is the case?

[Maleficious-wyrmrest-accord (Maleficious)]

Blood Boil is not target capped. The DnD cap is only from the extra hits given by Scourge Strike/Heart Strike. The ground AoE appears to be untouched.

[Malcvi-rexxar]

Or you could also say thy for every extra target hit, more resources are consumed until no resources remain.

The easier way though is of course to cap it.

[Heartx-windrunner]

Wowhead, DK Class changes. And good question, id like to know how a lot of things are going to work.

Death and Decay
Frost, Unholy: Corrupts the targeted ground, causing [(3.6036% of Attack power) * 11] Shadow damage over 10 sec to targets within the area.
While you remain within the area, your Scourge Strike will hit up to 4 enemies near the target.
Blood: Corrupts the targeted ground, causing [(3.6036% of Attack power) * 11] Shadow damage over 10 sec to targets within the area.
While you remain within the area, your Heart Strike will hit up to 0 additional targets. Scourge Strike will hit up to 4 enemies near the target.
Build 35432: Target caps added
Alpha Release - Build 33978:Now available to all specs. Blood: cleave moved to Rank 2