Ideally the 10% damage buff should just be passive and not reliant on form, and leave shadow form as a purely cosmetic change. We still have void form, after all, for class fantasy.
Failing that, I’d be good with a visage style effect - so you can manually turn it on and off ad you like, but you can also have an option to only toggle on in combat.
No thank you. Shadow form is spec fantasy and identity. It should remain. There should be glyphs to alter its appearance slightly, but just like Moonkin should remain.
As someone who uses the glyph for Balance Druid to avoid looking like an Owlkin, I’d be OK with a glyph to hide/reduce Shadowform, but I wouldn’t want it removed from the game entirely.
If you create a Priest and select Shadow Priest you pretty much run into shadowform right away. Question is, who would spend any time at all being a shadow priest if shadowform bothered them?
It’s not like anyone invested years in developing their Shadow Priest then suddenly it was sprung on them by the “evil devs” who gave us Shadow Lands.
Exactly! I want the classic shadowform back (IMHO, it was fine the way it was until Blizz decided they needed to reinvent the wheel).
Because the gameplay is fun.
It kind of was though. They changed the look of it. People who had played a shadow priest for years (myself included) suddenly had to deal with a very different, and in many people’s opinions, worse looking effect.
For a brief time in pre-patch from Legion to BfA, Shadowform with that glyph looked something like this and I loved it:
Saddly Blizz changed it to the “next to no difference” we have today.
The current glyph does hardly anything to reduce the obfuscation of Shadowform and might as well not exist because it does so little visually. I’d be thrilled if the glyph got revamped to look like the above again. I’d like to actually SEE my character when playing shadow.
I never noticed that on my priest. Are you sure it isn’t interactions with void form on void elves?
That looks like a nice alternative to have via glyph. I am for more options. But not necessarily removing shadow form.
It was just the regular Shadowform, but as I said we only had it briefly. It’s a similar visual effect to the Rogue ability Shadow Dance. My guess is that when pre-patch for BfA hit there was a bug that made the glyphed version use the appearance in my image, because it wasn’t long after that it got reverted to the version we see today. I was very sad that day.
I wish they would bring back the old shadowform, even as a glyph. I really miss the OG shadowform. Ideally, there should be more glyph options for all classes and specs.
OG shadowform vs new:
Shadowform has been the sole thing that has stopped me from playing a priest for all these years. I would actually like to see my character, instead of staring at a inkblot test all day.
ANd you are posting this to stir controversy. The entire ethos of Shadowpreist is their identity and affinity to shadow. A base spell boost mechanically is fine. It seems as though you are whining because no other class gets such an easy boost ability. And Shadowpreists are pretty competitive atm. What needs to be the focus of class/spec development is identity and mechanically integrating their purpose into the game so far the development of classes has gone down the drain because there are all these cop-out borrowed crumbs of power that are given, but of course, there seems to be a campaign against magic and high fantasy happening in this game, trying to turn it into a shooter, wrestling, faction based racism, zero awareness of quality storytelling kind of game.
What we need are Classes, Specializations, and the magic golden ticket called: Disciplines. Disciplines within your class/spec design would give the player more identity and creative flavor that will impact the customization of your toon. But like all things, people love to create meta-narratives for builds and what not, which take the fun out of playing if everyone is the same. This is why Guild Wars rocks. They have elite specs and interesting skill trees that actually don’t overshadow their peers.
Meta gaming is not cute. It’s pseudo-intellectualism that discriminates and keeps WoW from being accessible and inclusive.
The hell are you talking about? It looks like crap. That’s all.
They should just add a glyph to either hide it or make us transparent like the ghosts in Scholomance/Stratholme, and one to return the Vanilla Shadowform. I feel like that would satisfy most people.
I’d like to be ghostly and still see my mog if it was an option.
Removing shadow form is like removing the word shadow in Shadow Priest. You just can’t do that.
Or Blizz could just give us a Glyph to hide it …
Hiding it all together isn’t a good solution imo, and one I’m very doubtful blizz would even consider. It definitely needs to be changed though.
It’s beyond me how the devs ever thought the current version was a great idea. It’s absolutely awful and very literally and completely ruins your appearance.
Does some sort of visual need to be there for shadowform? I think so, yes. It should be something minimal though, and definitely not something that completely engulfs your character.
I strongly disagree on that, I feel we should absolutely have the option (option) to hide it altogether. If this is some kind of PvP concern (which as a PvE exclusive player I do not care about at all) then they could just make the Glyph not work in PvP or with Warmode enabled.
I don’t think they should break the glyph in PvP if given the option to hide Shadowform altogether.
It’s always silly seeing people say “Oh but then how will I know they’re X if they don’t have Y?” Void Elves have customization that Blood Elves have and I haven’t seen any of the issues the opposing side brought up when asking for that implementation.
More customization is always a good thing. I’d like it if multiple glyphs could be made (1 for Classic Shadowform, 1 to hide it completely, and 1 for a transparent (Illucia Barov) form). There’s no way someone who actually does PvP would struggle identifying a Shadow Priest without Shadowform turning you into a giant ball of purple gas.
I strongly support your freedom to disagree with opinions better than your own.
Strongly, very strongly.
I do advocate for the complete removal of the current shadowforn. It sucks. But to only give an option to remove it would be lazy.
It could be reworked into something much more subtle that will attractively enhance your character instead of just making it look like you fell in a pool of voidwalker poop.