Shadow spec bonuses

I don’t even care just make Void Eruption the better option over DA.

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It doesn’t matter the playstyle still blows so hard it won’t help unless the spec is over tuned. #reworkneeded

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Back then you were a legit mana battery for your healers.

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You also didn’t even press mind blast as part of your DPS rotation because of the icc set bonus.

It was VT, swp, plague, and flay for shadow weaving stacks.

yea…

/10char

awful choice.

i want out of this democrazy.

tier bonus meaningless and dead, because those talents are DEAD.

spec is dead, aoe is dead, ramp is dead.

this spec is garbage.

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Honestly if I could be in control. I would take the S3 2 set bonus and then actually add a 4 set bonus that complements the 2 set without being forced into using either SW:P or Shadow Crash to just hit harder.

Not only is that boring in that it doesn’t really add any flavor in picking different talents but adds more clunky buttons into the rotation purely for damage sake and nothing else.

So I would handle it like this instead.

  • 2 set: Shadow Word: Death triggers 2 additional times at 15% effectiveness. Shadow Word: Deaths cast using Deathspeaker or on targets below 20% health trigger one additional time.
  • 4 set: Shadow Word: Death spawns a Shadowy Apparition when it deals damage to an enemy.
    Shadowy Apparitions deal 15% of their damage to up to 4 additional nearby targets.

This makes Shadow Word: Death now spawn a Shadowy Apparition for every target that is damaged from Shadow Word: Death. Which means it should interact with Psychic Link in spawning a Shadowy Apparitions for every target that your Shadow Word: Death did Psychic Link damage too.

This would also make your Shadowy Apparitions deal a small portion of their damage to up to 4 nearby enemies on impact.

This would increase the amount of Shadowy Apparitions spawned and enhance their damage which would lean into picking talents to buff up your Shadowy Apparitions.

This would also buff up our AOE damage as well.

So essentially, casting a single Shadow Word: Death would spawn 3-4 Shadowy Apparitions per target (Dealt Psychic Link Damage).

This would cause an army of Ghosts to be spawned in AOE mob clusters that would then each deal a small amount of AOE damage to close targets.
Be like a floating minefield. You can actually do damage to multiple targets without them having dots on them.

You should go with gameplay over power especially when you should assume they will tune according anyways.

The S2 didn’t provide gameplay though, the talents we used at the time did.

assume they will tune???

what??? are you new here? =D

haha

They ran these polls because 10.2.6 is going up on the PTR probably next week and that’s the patch they tune everything for S4.

:upside_down_face:

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i never said it did i just said ideally you should. Second, you sorta admitted that it did because it wasn’t forcing you into specific talents. Now are you saying with season 2 set you will be playing the same talents as season 3?If the answer is no that its absolutely going to affect gameplay.

Ive been here a lot longer than you i assure you especially since you seem to be blind to the tuning shadow has had in this patch alone. Also they quite literally said “Please keep in mind that we’re going to update the power of the set bonuses to match the increased power of the new gear in Season 4, so any bonuses you choose will be tuned to be as strong as any others.”

Oh nice quote me out of context. let me fix it for you.

One context is talking about an assumption with no variable evidence(IE the majority of lvl 10s are EU)

The other is verifiable evidence in 2 ways. First them having a history of tuning after tier sets release and the other being them actually saying they would.

Next time use your brain instead of your feelings XD.

Also heres a link to the post where they said they would tune them, so yea you should assume they will.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/choose-your-own-gear-in-dragonflight-season-4/1760899

Prior to the buffs today things wouldn’t have changed. Raids and low keys would still be bender cthun and higher keys would still lean towards various ghost vf builds. After the buffs, specifically 20% to apparitions, it’s hard to say for sure.

You keep missing the part where it’s level 10 with low achievement points

Tuning a tier set doesn’t really matter when the spec has been changed quite a bit since what that tier was designed for. Tier Tuning != Spec Tuning.

today’s tuning is already a step in the right direction for tuning for this set bonus to be a good one, let them cook please, i’d rather take the chance to have a fun gameplay loop over Mindbender spam for another 6 months

no i am not forgetting that, low achievement isn’t verifiable evidence that every low lvl player with low achievement = EU.

Um what, it doesn’t matter if a spec has changed if you tune a tier set its going to have an impact on the spec’s power. This is legit the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

Except any level 10 from NA servers gets the same achievement points as their main. So yeah, level 10’s with low achievement points are a majority of the time EU players.

Maybe you should actually play the game then. There’s a few tier sets that need more than just tuning of the set to work with current specs.