Shadow spec bonuses

they’ll retune the specs in short order if they don’t work, don’t be stupid. there’s 0 reason not to.

You must be new here.

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i’m not. i know blizzard does dumb stuff constantly but right now outside of RWF they’ve done pretty damn good on tuning in general lately. we just get a complete rework every time that causes our issues

Getting numbers close and designing classes that are fun to play are not the same things. We’re just going to play a worse version of what we’re playing now if we get S2 tier without reverting the nerfs that killed the S2 playstyle.

If we’re honest with ourselves, it’s probably healthiest to accept that S2 tier was an anomaly that Blizzard will always push us to play Mindbender. It’s a terrible ability on its own and Blizzard never buffs it because they love stapling the seasonal borrowed power to it. They’re going to continue building every tier set around it and they’re not going to cave again.

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When those numbers include certain talents that synergize with the tier set being buffed, or the insanity generation being changed to make up for the loss of our 2 set, they’re totally able to be fixed with relative ease

this is the one time we get to make our voice heard properly that we hate these mindbender set bonuses and i’m gonna use my chance to do so, no real reason to accept the status quo if they can maybe see how much more popular t2 is and go “huh, maybe that did work” instead of letting T3 hit again and patting themselves on the back for making the same set bonus for the 10th time

You are giving me a bonus of 10.0 because I no longer have that skill, so it doesn’t make sense friend, the ideal would be to use a forger who gives you the skill of the tier you like and that’s it, problem solved

haha, right… :smiling_face_with_tear:

Pretty sure all the A-team devs are working on the next 3 expansions and we’ve had the B, maybe even C tier devs working on DF for a while now.

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They all force you to play Deathspeaker. Sorry.

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I just wanted to get rid of Mindspike and use Mind Flay for at least 1 season

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How about you rebalance all our garbage capstones in pvp? And what a waste hero talents are

This is the point we keep making. Tuning numbers won’t fix our underlying problems with class mechanics. Chiefly of which is our inability to do any aoe in successive short fights and add spawns because of Shadow Crash being cooldown.

Tuning numbers for raids and long fights hides this fatal flaw and any discussion about fixing it toxic because or classes start arguing over statistics.

How do we make this more clear? Some of the set bonuses aren’t really viable after multiple reworks.

You don’t because they have already said they are going to rebalance them for season 4. It doesn’t matter which you pick there is going to be numbers tuning.

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If y’all are gonna do something crazy, Bring back 45 sec Mass Dispel and quit making mechanics dispellable if you don’t want us to trivialize mechanics Blizz!

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Honestly as mainly a PVPer. I think they should have the voting on tier sets based on what content you do. Like give pvpers the majority vote for tier set based off pvp and it doesn’t effect pve. Then for pve give them the best tier sets for pve and buff those sets. Cuz having the same tier sets for both pvp and pve might not be the best set for that content depending on what you do.

You might as well just open it up so the player gets to choose which tier set bonuses they like most and mix and match and change it up similar to PvP talents.

Because what you’re suggesting is a VERY subjective route to take that shoehorns in specific bonuses to specific types of players.

What about players that partakes in both PvE and PvP equally, what set bonus would they end up with?

Getting too specific and nuanced on this topic is only going to lead to resentment and disappointment.

It would make the most sense to just open it all up and let the players go nuts for the last bit of the expansion and see from the chaos what the players will naturally gravitate towards and use that as a design building block for future content.

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Agreed. They honestly should just have it like shadowlands where you could get any LEGO and honestly you don’t know what LEGO someone is running until you fight them lol.

Where do I vote to revert the last 3 Season 2 nerfs so that the spec isn’t mindbender the spec anymore?

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shadow priest was good in wrath T10. then i guess it died