It used to be more common with the top guilds creating their own difficulty by clearing heroics with lower ilvl. I remember an Ulduar achievement for it specifically. Once they added mythic raiding this practice seemed to have stopped as now why make it more difficult without the reward.
There are those who do say some really dumb things but the majority isn’t like this at all.
Everyone, there is a BiS list for everyone’s level of content. Even if your just doing world content or happen to be a level 10 twink. Everyone had a BiS list for what they are doing. Doesn’t have to be Mythic 639 to be BiS for you and what your doing.
Want to “ruin” delves? Make world quests drop mythic raid gear.
The path of least resistance will be taken.
I would think you’d do the content you enjoy because you enjoy it. If motivation only goes as far as the rewards do then that’s an issue with entertainment not being a significant motivator.
Easye, make world first race with this condition:
clear mythic raid while nobody equips items higher than 590 ilvl.
Done. Rat race fixed, casuals could have mythic gear now.
Thank you everyone.
And then there’s the question: Why have gear in the game if it’s just going to be downscaled everywhere?
well, it would shoe true skill tho, wouldnt it?
if you can clear mythic raid in 590
I’m sorry but this is 1000% a “you” problem. You either enjoy the content or you don’t. Devs shouldn’t design around those who cannot control themselves, do everything available and then complain about “forced”, “too easy”, “burnout” or “i can’t get rewards anymore because i did everything else”. I think it would be best if every pillar’s gear was set up like PvP, good while doing that activity and basic for the other pillars.
No I strongle disagree that’s a game design problem.
Sure I can agree but then you’d have way less people in them as crossovers keep more people playing, which is something I doubt the devs would want. And players would have to deal with even longer queues in M+.
I do do the content I enjoy because I enjoy it. I would not enjoy doing easy content because it’s the path of least resistance and it would degrade my enjoyment of the game. It has nothing to do with other people getting an easy path to bis gear, it’s that I would find the game less enjoyable if I could get bis from easy content.
Like that’s just my opinion, and you can tell me my opinion is wrong or illogical or whatever, but that’s how I’d feel about it.
I think this is one of those ideas that would end up causing as many complaints as it silenced. When people are still rocking that veteran trinket because their vault hasn’t cranked out an upgrade and they can’t just slap a heroic track delve trinket in its place we’d start hearing new complaints immediately.
Delete gear, and no need to worry about it.
That would also show true skill.
So in other words you don’t enjoy the content, you just want the gear. And the devs shouldn’t design around people like this.
Nah I understand what you’re saying whether I agree or not. Appreciate your replies.
I just want to play a game, slowly get over powered then smash everything I come across with a group of friends. I don’t get a sense of accomplishment from video games. Or at least very little. Games are just for fun, to me. If I put in the time and energy to do something extremely hard in a video game, I feel like I wasted a bunch of time and am annoyed I did this to myself. That’s the reason I stopped raiding and running M+ and trying to be good. After 15 years of playing wow they just kept want more and more and more of my time. If I did all that stuff I would never see me family or friends or run my business well. So then I took off for a couple years and now I don’t try , at all.
Nope, that’s not what I said at all
And there are many video games where you can be overpowered. Play those?
And even in WOW, you can be overpowered in certain content as is.
Who here thinks heroic dungeons or timewalking need to be even easier?
In answer to the topic of the post.
Everyone should be able to get BiS items.
Now the question for me is what is BiS?
Is BiS only for the highest item levels?
If ilvl619 is somones end goal, should there be a BiS set for them to get?
So many fragile people who cannot handle not having mythic level gear.
High end gear in WoW has always required groups and skill.