Second Class Citizens

Shouldn’t have to constantly medicate to play a video game; besides, there is an easy fix that Blizz is just too stubborn to enable.

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Irony of ironies, it’s the neckbeards who wanted normal flying from the start. You know, like it was when they were young.

The people who are screeching bloody murder here are of a different breed; much younger than the ones you are alluding to here. This is the works of the ones who have been conditioned to protect and serve regime interests as if they were the orders of God Himself (though they are even more vile to God than they are to kulaks like neckbeards), and who treat corporations as the chosen arbiters of the managerial will of “the party.”

In many ways, I think blizzard is actually sympathetic to the disabled, if only for brownie points at the end of the day. The problem lies in the conditioning of the overall populace of younger people today, they were not given an off button to their artificial rage against the common man.

I’m really sorry. I have several games that I can’t play because they hurt my hands (arthritis) and my sister can’t play Minecraft (motion sickness). When I was younger I couldn’t play Spiro the Dragon because of motion sickness. It sucks.

All I can say is that most people have limitations that prevent them from doing something. It’s never fun and it always feels unfair. You aren’t alone.

If it helps at all, my wife has been playing WoW for many years and she can’t jump in the game. Like even reasonable jumps she will miss. She just can’t time it. I’ve watched her try a dozen times and fail. And I can’t stay calm in a raid. I get scared or excited or something and just cannot calmly handle the mechanics. So I don’t raid beyond the occasional raid finder late in an expac when my ineptitude is offset by everyone’s higher gear.

Anyway, you aren’t alone. Many of us out here limp along in a game that we aren’t quite suited for, somehow. I hope you can find fun despite your limitations.

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First off, uh, if someone has to medicate to play a video game, that’s never going to be a bad thing. It’s also not on Blizzard to make a game that caters to every single person who is disabled/has mental health issues or what have you so that their disabilities, mental health issues, etc, aren’t being triggered by the game.

Second off, we actually don’t know if it’s an easy fix or not. Could be it conflicts with the code of the TBC flying or even zone coding.

That being said, I do think it’s super tone-deaf on Blizzard’s part to have Dragonriding but not TBC flying enabled at the start especially with TWW.

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I understand that the OP isn’t the most agreeable opinion but why was it flagged? I’m confused here. On the topic matter I disagree with the premise of your opinion OP I think that having an easier form of flight needing to be earned makes sense even if the more difficult flight system is straight up better. That said, I’m sorry people decided to flag you for literally no reason.

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Path of Exile is the one that sets off my motion sickness. A couple seasons ago (the one before Atlas) I was able to play, strangely fine, but then when that season ended… bam!.. back to being able to play for about 15 minutes before getting queasy.

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What I found weird about my dracthyr is that I can’t fly.
I tried but apparently I’m terrible at being a dracthyr so I don’t play it much.

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Because of the way it was stated.

Oh and possibly because it is spam.

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Second class citizens? Are we going to be able to add a second class to our characters? That’d be pretty neat.

It does seem weird that Blizzard won’t allow “classic” flying in the new areas straight off. Maybe it has something to do with being able to hover infinitely in one spot?

If that’s the case just make a debuff for classic flying so if you stay still you take damage and then remove it at level 80.

but how would people be inconveniencing themselves by allowing people to use traditional flying on day one?

toggling on traditional flight for people when they start the new expansion instead of when they hit max level literally affects no one in a negative way.

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I agree they should just enable it from the start but having it at max level is good enough for me personally to buy the expac.

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Sure there is. The dev’s continued petty dislike of old flying. They just don’t have the stones to remove it completely, even though they’d love to.

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yeah realistically since they agreed to give us normal flying immediately when we hit max level, im fine with that.

it does make me a little annoyed that they are giving dynamic flight sooner than normal flight, but i have to pick my battles… i can get normal flight once i hit max level and thats good for me.

but at the same time, i do understand the concern of the OP because maybe they will have quite a challenging time levelling without flight.

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Going to be blunt with this one.

I think the amount of people who get violently sick from dragon riding are likely an incredible minority of the already minority of players that get significant motion sickness from dragon riding.

That said, if Dragon Riding is allowed at expansion start then it makes extremely little sense for normal flying to not be allowed as well. Dragon Riding is significantly faster than normal flying even if used poorly, and if botting is the worry then it’s a loose reason at best since eventually bots will overcome the hurdle and have normal flying. I will say it’s been funny to see bots trying to dragon ride though :joy:

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Which is a separate entity than the Boston Marathon. We could give them a separate WoW if that’s how you want to play it.

I’ll be honest, the only bad thing I heard in the deep dive today was the fact that they decided to arbitrarily gate old flying behind max level for really no good reason at all. I’ll personally be using the new flying because it’s better in every way possible for me, but I think old flying should be unlocked at the same time for people who prefer that type of flight for whatever reason.

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I’m gonna be honest but this feels fine to me? Am I upset ? No. They have said they’ll add it later and they also said no rep which makes it alot easier. Seems ok :+1:. :cloud_with_rain:

OP, have you tried these settings yet?

What? it’s never a bad thing to have to medicate?

Many games have seizure warnings, color-blindness modes, etc. for people who do have issues. This “issue” isn’t even a real issue, it’s a manufactured one. The solution exists and they just refuse to turn it on.

It’s going to be obtainable at max level, so it would not be a coding issue. Worst case I can think of is that there are quests that would be much easier with TBC flying.

EDIT: For all those who say Blizzard shouldn’t have to cater to a minority – I will wager RL dollars that some day in the next 30 years, at most, video games will be included in the ADA. Mark my words.