Season of Discovery Developer Update - Feb 27, 2024

and this isnt a season of current retail wow, this is a season of CLASSIC wow, all of you knew 40 man was the thing to do at 60

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Well actually it’s season of discovery, you know where blizzard explicitly said they’d be sand boxing random ideas.

I didn’t think that would include changing the 40 mans to 20 mans but it certainly wasn’t off the table.

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Nice try blizz. But i am not renewing my sub UNTIL next phase. Your extra rewards for catch up wont entice me to resub once my sub ends next week.

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In what regard? A 20 man would require teamwork just the same, the only actual difference is filling out 40 raid members that’s it

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Hello,
My recommendation for endgame final phase is to include a vendor which sells gathering materials for a initially ‘high’ price as a measure to cut off inflation within the economy and ensure raw gold farming is always a viable option for players to prepare for raid.

For example, a vendor which sells black lotus for 100g each, possibly locked behind different reputations for different materials. Nobody would want to buy a black lotus for that price initially, but as inflation continues (see Era servers for an example) this will provide a ceiling for black lotus prices, effectively capping consumable costs down the line. Ideally these materials are priced high, but still at a value that someone who spends a couple hours farming could afford.

Why do we need this? Just look at Era and the 600g flasks because inflation is completely insane. This also removes a major incentive for gold buying since the normal player would always see their consumables as affordable/attainable since players and bots can only manipulate the economy to a certain threshold.

Happy to expand on my suggestion anytime. Love what y’all have been up to :slight_smile:

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I don’t think there are any actual mechanics that required more than 20 to work properly.

This is no longer a season of Classic WoW unfortunately.
They should just take that prefix off, cause it doesn’t espouse any Classic design or values at this point.

I don’t mind 20 man raids climbing up to 60 but there better be mostly 40 mans at 60 else this whole thing is honestly just spitting on the demographic that enjoys era/vanilla and turning it into retail with dad difficulty.

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I don’t want to see all raids have the same difficulty and the same reward power. There should definitely be some that are PUGable, and the people only raiding in pugs should feel rewarded… but there should also be some way for a dedicated static team of raiders to challenge themselves. Not every raid needs to be clearable by a PUG in week one. There should be something to work towards and struggle against. There should be some raid that a semi-casual group (or even a semi-hardcore one?) needs a couple lockouts worth of early gear upgrades in order to complete.

This is arguably more of a retail-wow than it is classic. the only thing classic about it is the engine that it’s running on. If this were season of classic-wow then we would’ve never got new abilities and they would’ve kept it purely ERA with new raids/quest/BG stuff. This is basically classic-wow engine with Wrath gameplay with some retail QoLs

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Earth Shield is still very underwhelming in PVP

There also needs to be some reward for the people who invest the time to maintain a 40 guild roster and go through the difficulty of that content. If you’re basically just handing out the same level rewards for puggable content…I am not interested in that game, sorry.

Of course not but sometimes you have to point out a stupid comment when you see it, I’m convinced most people who want 40 mans have never raid lead or been a guild master before and had to organize the group

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Hey guys wanna play C+? Oh you do? Yea we didn’t make that, here’s retail minus.

Where did all the pop go?

Relishing when you get fired tubbs.

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I mean it’s a sandbox using Era as the base, blizzard was real clear about that from the start, it’s not fresh era servers with minor changes like HC or SoM.

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Plan on buffing warlocks any time soon, or are you content to let them remain at the bottom of the pack in pvp while all your pet classes continue to do just fine?

No, they clearly stated it was C+. There’s a reason the games dropped over a millon bodies all ready.

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No they made it pretty clear this was not classic+, they didn’t even commit to what will happen at the end of SoD.

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Merge into another guild then that does have management that wants to do it.

No 40 man molten core definitely means this is my jumping off point fo SoD. It’s been very fun but without 40 man raids I would much rather play a different game

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