You are a slow one ain’t ya.
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As you continue to argue with me on this imagined issue I have. You’ve only gone to prove my point that people are going to be rude/mean in any setting. Especially in a video game designed for people to fight each other in.
I don’t see any reason to continue to repeating myself to you. I’ve said it for you multiple times now, I can’t UNDERSTAND it for you too…
You literally said it was a problem and that people suck, pointing to this behavior in this setting.
On Skeram there was a 60 Pally camping Hillsbrad ALL DAY LONG! Don’t say it’s a “UD” thing. Phase 2 isnt out yet. People are bored and have 0 consequences for killing low levels.
I can’t help myself it seems.
People being a problem isn’t the same as PVP being a problem.
Let me try to reframe this for you in a way you can grasp.
You play wow, so I figure you understand how a group and group loot works.
Scenario: you want loot/money.
Imagine you’re in a group and someone rolls need on everything. THAT person is causing the problem of not getting loot. It is not the rest of the group creating problems. it is not the rolling system causing the problem. Its an individual doing something that is problematic in a system that would otherwise work fine. (and does for many others)
This is an example of a problematic person in an otherwise non-problematic situation. just like people in pvp.
Hopefully you can see how people being a problem does not equate to pvp being a problem. It is just a tool that they utilize to be terrible people.
Horde are the bad guys, they’re supposed to do that.
And undead are the worse of all.
They’re role playing in a role playing game. 
Ofc it’s annoying when it happens to you, but it’s exactly what makes the game vibrant and maintains the threatening and dangerous atmosphere when you’re out in the world.
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You still do not get it, I explicitly stated that wasn’t what was being discussed. And you still do not answer the question posed, and rephrased for you from the outset.
Roll on a pvp server and pvp happens.
That’s pretty debatable.
Me neither, that’s one of the many reasons I don’t play on PVP servers … seems like you shouldn’t either if this kind of thing upsets you.
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Bearchub, why are you playing on a Pvp Server? It doesn’t look like you understand what a Pvp server is by your replies.
I’m just trying to understand here, I say some people suck.
I say, I never said there was one, I’m just saying that some people suck.
So what? what are you trying to say here?
I ask ‘Where do you derive that I have an issue with pvp, and not people.’
I take a guess at what you meant and say I feel like you’re trying to provoke an argument about something I never even discussed, and give you an analogy of how I had come to see things thus far.
Honestly, this didn’t clarify anything. So, again, I try to show you how I came to my conclusion by quoting your original comment :
saying that it sure seems like you were saying that to me.
As I thought I was pretty clear in my statement of people are sometimes just sucky people. Yet, you persist that I have some issue with them/that behavior even though I’ve tried to show you how I merely stated that it happens.
You confirm that ‘indeed’ you were saying what I thought?
Another brilliantly enlightening post that illuminates your viewpoint spectacularly. You think I misunderstood you, yet again you fail to try and rectify that, just go on to say that I don’t get it. So I play along, and politely ask you to clarify for me.
AGAIN, you are the one misunderstanding me. I never said that their behavior was a problem and tried to say that multiple times over at this point. Somehow you were equating my statement of ‘people suck sometimes’ to ‘people who suck are a problem for pvp’ despite my attempts to repeat myself for you.
I went on to say that your statement was synonymous with ‘What is wrong with pvp’ and tried to reiterate my self again. Admittedly, I did so poorly this time, as I’d became flustered with having to try and restate the same thing in different ways in an attempt to allow you to grasp it. I mistakenly said
Yikes, I apologize for this one, this one is all me… I contradicted myself in the SAME post.
Thankfully at that time you didn’t choose to pick it apart, and just chose to address
I never said it was wrong (but as you can see I had just done that, doh!) I still believe this is not wrong.
I posted again showing how you prove the point of people are just mean to be mean, then prove it again by being mean myself. (double whammy!)
But then you take my statements made to OP, and put them to use for your own needs.
I told OP his problem was people suck, not (insert race/class/faction here). Which is what he proposed. And I tried to reframe this for you yet again with an example even, and tried to get you to see that people being douchey in pvp, doesnt mean they’re a problem. They’re just there.
I beg to differ. You’ve been vague and only respond to try and goad an argument this entire discourse… You’ve been misinterpreted (according to you) and you fail to try to change this in any way, shape, or form. You can only summon up the equivalent of " you are wrong" “you don’t get it” without any attempt to explain.
However, as you can clearly see, I’ve attempted many times to explain to you, in great detail, how I’ve come to understand what it was that you were trying to say.
I should’ve taken my own advice, but just like that meme of Ben from Parks & Rec.
“I don’t have the time to explain to you how wrong you are. Actually, it’ll really bug me if I don’t…”
That’s a whole lot of words for you not understanding what words mean.
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I mind control alliance to give them fort.
I am a monster
HArdly racism, son, tone that down a few notches.
Meh? It’s literally racism. And, what precisely is it you are presuming to tell me to tone down?
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For a lot of people i knew who pvped undead. It was more the fantasy of being an undead assasin killing the living.
And tormenting them.
It’s literally not. At best, it’s figuratively racism. Although, technically, we are discussing a trope known as “fantastic racism”. I don’t even know how you manage to play this game, considering the blatant xenophobia all through the lore.
Like, you realize there are only undead characters, no undead people, right?
Tone down the woke virtue signalling.
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Yes, of course. I’m actually quite surprised that wasn’t obvious to you.
GTFO. Seriously.
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Heh, my very first night playing vanilla I saw a GM shooing a group of horde out of the Teldrassil noob park for doing this. Had no idea what was going on at the time.
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