Scrap Seasons NOW

A bit disingenuous I would say. Technically you can raid without enchants or gear I suppose if you want to be pedantic, but if they are available they are expected in most groups/guilds.

Still, it’s a fact. Seeing a few like you as well here. You could make a No buffs raid team. Be the change you ask for :smiley_cat:

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I loved WBs. People who didn’t like it didn’t know how to go with a large group and then gtfo.

I never messed with them personally since I spent most of my time pvping, but I loved dispelling them. :crazy_face:

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Man thats crazy, your guild wants you to put forth effort to make yourself stronger?

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I think you misunderstand. With increased raid difficulty and no world buffs the raids were a bit more of a challenge. I’ve done the WB’s, its fine. I just liked having a bit more of a challenge.

I have to admit I’d be down for this. I guess my problem with P H R E S H was seasonal fun server xp rate SOM after all.

I found pushing the speed clears far more challenging. Normal raids with no world buffs I could do half asleep with my kid in my lap.

WBs where raiding is concerned are pure cheese and weren’t intended to be used in that way. Chalk it up to the ol’ “clever use of mechanics” thing. Whether you think WBs are good or bad for “Classic” is a matter of opinion. The game can handle any play style or preference.

There’s vanilla the game and vanilla the experience and those are two different things in 2023. Next to no one actually cares about being tested by the game so you’re only turning people off by turning WBs off. Just go as no changes as possible and let the chips fall where they may.

As for the topic at hand, yeah scrap seasons. Just open a few new servers on a set cycle and have them empty out onto existing Era realms when their time is done.

To each their own. I had fun with the WB’s and without. I like the idea of increased difficultly in raids without WB’s for SoM, but if they they do a fresh era could go either way and I’d be fine.

I get that players created a super toxic environment with world buffs, Meta’s, and other things like kiting Teremus to Stormwind. But at the end of the day, they were removed in SoM and left in Classic. If we saw a fresh Classic, I would hope they would keep them in.

There is no reason to take them out. Its part of the game. People are or can be toxic, that’s not WBs fault. They were put in as a cool little bonus for people. If thats doing MC in 40 min or less or so you can have an easier time questing, so be it.

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The real question is how to fix the AQ40 burnout on any type of server.

Accept it for what it is. Let the people that enjoy the game, enjoy it how it is. Blizzard does not have any of the remaining team that built Vanilla. It won’t have the same vibe, look, or feel. It’ll be this hollow retail-feeling that’ll leave a bad taste in our mouth.