Scourge Event Nerfed - Thank You

[Helsylvan-wyrmrest-accord]

@Furrfist-frostmourne

So what’s your take on player entitlement then?

My take?

I think there are some players that are entitled, and some players that are not entitled. 🤷

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

Gamers can be pretty entitled period. It’s not exclusive to people who do LFR in WoW or to WoW exclusively.

[Calistrian-garrosh]

I’m starting to think that almost every single new topic you post is a troll.

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

@Hotheifer-zuljin

What a bunch of whiny losers you guys are.

and why was it changed?

oh right… thanks to a few whiny losers.

see how that works?

[Helsylvan-wyrmrest-accord]

@Calistrian-garrosh

I’m starting to think that almost every single new topic you post is a troll

I mean, you’re not wrong.

At least Ralph and Vanilanoob had charisma. They play the forums like a fiddle. But this thread? This is what I call debauchery.

[Grandbrae-dalaran]

Good, no greifing this time, specially at starting zones. Good. Good

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

Well the forums became increasingly entitled after a certain point because a mentality of “if I shout the loudest daddy blizz will listen to me” and it worked, and now more people do it, and situations like this is the result.

My personal opinion is that LFR was the big event that changed things, but you can argue it isn’t and that’s fine.

[Gallows-korialstrasz]

@Hotheifer-zuljin

What a bunch of whiny losers you guys are.

You should put that name calling energy into calling the devs out on this. The two minor changes I mentioned above would work with no nerf and everyone could enjoy with no griefing.

You call others losers while critical thinking evades you. GG.

[Murlocsoup-frostmane (Murlocsoup)]

@Furrfist-frostmourne

Well the forums became increasingly entitled after a certain point because a mentality of “if I shout the loudest daddy blizz will listen to me” and it worked, and now more people do it, and situations like this is the result.

My personal opinion

There is never an issue with discussion. Bad decision making from that discussion though…

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

That’s because it’s your personal thorn. But I don’t have the same problem with it.

But as far as this event, they can make it optional and not nerf it into the ground. Making for a very boring pre-patch event.

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

@Soulebreaker-hyjal

But as far as this event, they can make it optional and not nerf it into the ground. Making for a very boring pre-patch event.

This seemed the most logical in-between tbh

The Plague Event is Fine, but only if it's Opt-In

There need to be some very minor restrictions on the Plague Event. From reports, there are few places you can go (aside from offline) if you don’t want to interact with this. In addition, this thing is getting game-crashing levels of stupid, and however much ~wacky chaos~ you want to introduce to the world, annihilating the game client is a no-go. So, solutions then: There should be some manner of questline or toggle (more ideally) to indicate ‘Yes! I want to fight on the front lines of the Zo…

[Calistrian-garrosh]

This is the same person who started another “Bring Back Mage Tower” thread about a week ago that devolved into a huge whine fest of “it’s not fair I literally couldn’t play then, it’s not fair to new players, screw you guys for wanting to have something that can no longer be obtained” for literally 8 hours. OP wasn’t the biggest whiner there, but definitely started it off.

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

A toggle would be nice. Also the servers were crashing because it was implemented suddenly on PTR. The whole purpose was to stress out the servers to see how much it can handle. They are doing it again tomorrow.

[Krek-azgalor]

The first time around, I was rerolling on a new server and was frantically trying to level so the event was a little frustrating.

I did take time off from leveling to enjoy the chaos though. Even as a non-max level healer, their was plenty of opportunity to get in on the fun.

So, yeah I really enjoyed it but it did get in the way if you had something that you wished to get done.

[Murlocsoup-frostmane (Murlocsoup)]

Well hopefully they un-nerf it then.

[Gallows-korialstrasz]

What would you say to more NPCs healers and a toy to help heal/dispel? And when I say more NPC healers, I mean a lot more.

Edit: OH and bankers, AH, Quest Givers, and flight paths are immune.

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

@Krek-azgalor

So, yeah I really enjoyed it but it did get the way if you had something that you wished to get done as well.

I think protecting NPCs/quest-givers is needed. Also give people an option to opt-out if they don’t want to deal with the event (+ Exile’s reach immunity). Now it’s just so watered down and pointless

[Ralanthel-thrall (Ralanthel)]

Easy, make players and quest givers below level 15 immune.

@Helsylvan-wyrmrest-accord

Blizzard went out of their way to introduce it because they hated the idea of building the game around a minority. It was entirely their call, it had nothing to do with the community.

Even more so, Blizzard needed LFR so more people would see the raids, in order to justify the continuation of dumping massive amounts of resources into them. No sense in making the most resource-heavy content if only 15% of the player base is going to see it in its entirety.

@Krek-azgalor

I did take time off from leveling to enjoy the chaos though. Even as a non-max level healer, their was plenty of opportunity to get in on the fun.

So, yeah I really enjoyed it but it did get in the way if you had something that you wished to get done.

I absolutely see your point, and I am glad you see mine. What people need to understand with an event like this, is it is supposed to disrupt the day-to-day play. It is a special event. People should stop and enjoy that and experience something that is happening for a very brief window and then disappearing forever.

Leveling and stuff will still be around afterward. That is what I did the first time. Had more fun running from zombies than I did leveling up. People are so rigid anymore that any kind of deviation from the norm becomes “mY ScHeduLe! REEEEE!”

[Doness-kargath (Doness)]

I was who you called the “biggest whiner” in that thread. I’m the one who said it wasn’t fair, and I stand by that. I wasn’t posting for literally 8 hours though, and I never said that last thing. I wasn’t whining. That wasn’t a troll thread, and neither is this one, though OP has a lot of opinions people that many on GD seem to disagree with.

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

@Ralanthel-thrall

Even more so, Blizzard needed LFR so more people would see the raids, in order to justify the continuation of dumping massive amounts of resources into them. No sense in making the most resource-heavy content if only 15% of the player base is going to see it in its entirety.

Yeah I think I made a mistake by attributing it to LFR (although I still have my personal grievances with it). I’m trying to figure out what caused this kind of mentality in the playerbase.

From what I remember, things were really accessible back in WoTLK (including the raiding scene), but Blizz had also made stuff like heroic dungeons easy, so a lot of the hardcore crowd started to complain about it, and Blizz listened and changed their philosophy in Cata to make things harder. This angered the large population of casuals in WoTLK that were happy with how the game was, and then they started to complain.

We’ve been in this mess of two polarizing groups that are always at odds with each other ever since. Just look at the min/max threads. One side will always be favored over the other at various points of time, and I just wish Blizz either designs things knowing that they have 2 distinct groups that needs to be satisfied, or choose one side.