You would think that in the most casual-friendly version of the game, this would have been changed. Here’s some ideas I spit-balled with guildies after spending 6 days in caves… FWIW, my guild has a single main raid team and about half an alt raid team.
Reduce the number of turn-ins needed. (They already did this one, apparently, and yet you still get only 1, MAYBE 2 scarab lords between the grinds and lockouts).
Make the raid drops raid-wide drops so that your entire main raid team can do the entire questline IN TANDEM. This one change would make the entire endeavor a fun GUILD CHALLENGE, rather than becoming a thing where GMs/Officers try to motivate people to help, or otherwise they’d have to resort to making it a requirement. IDK how other guilds are navigating this, but for us, we’re enticing people to help with farming with prio access to the new bug mounts from hard mode.
Add randomized “boss” spawns to incentivize people to move around, rather than hunkering down in caves to mobtag with macros. Something like every 10 minutes, or maybe every 100 dead silithids in a hive, a massive bug, worm, beetle, etc. spawns, which is faction-tagged, and drops a massive amount of fragments for everyone involved.
An “eruption” style event every 2 hours with daily quests that award brood rep. This would add a bit of variety so that I don’t want to quit and yell at my entire guild for asking me to farm bugs every waking moment of the day.
Make one or more of the caves instanced like you did with DFC. We could split our raid team into multiple 5 man groups, run through these a few times a day and in combination with the other changes, we’d have enough fragments for a scarab lord after a few days.
Bugs drop 10x the fragments.
Add more layers to reduce hyper-competition, since we’re now all on these massive megaservers.
Bugs hyperspawn when there are more players in the area. This would work particularly well with the randomized boss spawns because people would gather at a hive, slaughter lots of bugs, until they start hyperspawning, and then eventually a big bug spawns for a big battle/payoff.
Let us farm silithids in other zones that have hives (Feralas, Ungoro, Tanaris, Thousand Needles).
Add silithid invasions in random zones around the world that incentivizes us to travel around to kill silithid invaders. It could also become a low-level activity for alts to participate in.
Most of these changes are pretty easy requiring changing only a few parameters here and there to tune the amount of grinding needed, while others require a bit more effort to implement (instances, bosses, dailies). Given how little effort was put into this event, that could have made the AQ phase much more bearable, I have to wonder if the classic team even cares about SOD anymore? I don’t really have much faith that this team can deliver on the hype that people have put in the fabled “classic+” game I’ve heard people talk about so much.
PS.
I don’t care if you think it should be rare, it shouldn’t. No argument you make can convince me that an uber rare mount should be this rare to get.
I don’t care if these changes would make the mount less “special” no mount is special in wow. This is a video game.
I don’t care if you don’t care about this.
TLDR: I now have bug brain and hate everyone and everything in wow.
I thought the AQ Incursions would come with the AQ Quest ‘going live’. Ya know…because grinding mobs is only fun when it’s done by South Park.
Like, I genuinely thought it would. Because the Eruption Event is ‘over done’ now, and just being done for coin. - Ya, I know Embers can be used to buy the elemental Essences. But for the time it takes to get to the Grim Guzzler, you can just craft a bunch of elixirs and make like 75g. So it’s not worth it. ((HINT: Maybe add in the Tunneler toy that we can buy for like 1k Embers!))
Making a new Incursion event appealing while we wait for the new raids to open.
But, it looks like the new Incursions won’t start until the raids are open. And by then, Brood rep will be stupid-easy to get. Especially if you’re there for the Silithus fight; which for me, took me all the way up to Neutral before I was too tired to keep going - so I completely skipped the ‘Bug Farm’ when finishing the Scepter before [Classic] Cata dropped.
both servers are already going to have thousands of Rank 12/13/14 players who didn’t put in a fraction of the work. we really don’t need thousands of players with the Scarab Lord title who also didn’t put in a fraction of the work.
I think its very different than the original iteration.
It is so extremely active atm. 95% of the players there are strictly there for gold, actively hindering those that want to do the quest. It is really disappointing that people can just buy their way through this, specifically RMT.
And the people who want to make a buck off this are bottlenecking those who want to do farm it as its intended.
With the release of the new mounts and this being the 4th iteration of Scarab lord, so many have opted out and just farm gold instead.
Its a terrible circular problem and I really hope blizzard sees the pragmatism in intervening.
I would love a tremendous farm to honor a guildy. Going to war with ferengi, not so much.
In general I dont think you should be able to trade the frags to anyone not on the quest. No sales on the AH. But people would still buy. Less may farm though.
People always assume that addressing these problems means or equates to giving freebies or making it easier.
But the RMT involved is doing exactly that. RMT needs to be undermined and the event needs to be be improved for those actually involved in the content.
I think improving on the rep gains would undermine the value to the ferengi farming. While simultaneously cracking down hard on any buyer, suspending them right before the gong opens, that would be ideal at this point. The traffic alone evens out any buffs to the rep gains IMO.
Don’t blame the devs for the state of THEIR game? Is this a real response to feedback about the game? At the end of the day, the problem is that our guild has like 3 people who would love to go for it, but in order for these 3 people to get the entire thing, we’d literally have to swipe to get enough gold and buy fragments from the “rats” as people have started calling them. Our guild doesn’t have enough people to farm enough fragments in time for the raid lockouts to do the rest of the questlines.
If you’re OK with the devs being lazy, and not caring about the state of the game they put out, that’s on you, I’m trying to explain why this event would have been a great way for players to explore a part of the game that typically an extremely small portion of the playerbase gets to experience, and I thought that was the point of season of discover, right? Experiment with changes and find new things to discover or re-discover?
How about no. If you want to play a bad game, go play classic classic.
For the mount* Title doesn’t exist in classic. They’re already introducing scarab mounts in AQ HM chests that will be usable outside of AQ too, which look way cooler than the scarab lord mount. So, anyone grinding the mount rn is just playing themselves lmfao
ironically there’s something like that called Ahn’Quiraj incursions…which for some bizarre reason are only active during the 10 hours war, by which point if you aren’t done or almost done with the questline, you wont make it in time. Yes, now its the 48 hours war but still. This change would’ve been perfect as an alternative method of brood of nozdormu reputation to alleviate the issues in silithus with thousands of players competing, Layer disruption and more.
Or just make more fragments drop, or make it so deputees actually loot additional fragments instead of only 1 player being able to loot each bug. If all 5 looted fragments (assuming all 5 are either on quest or deputized), it would help big time.
Probably not gonna happen. The intention is very clear that only 1 person out of each 15-20 man raid team can work on the scarab mount.
Why wouldn’t they do this lol. It’s so weird they did it for Molten Core but not this time lmao.
NO. Layers only create issues and it creates endless amounts of frustration whenever we get thrown around like a pinball between layers and being unable to loot mobs we just killed.
Not a bad idea.
Not bad of an idea either.
IMHO it has less to do with how rare it is and far more to do with how frustrating it is to get, to the point you either need insane luck with a layer where you can have multiple groups being willing to farm for you, OR to do RMT or trade gold to buy the fragments off AH.
this design might’ve made sense in 2006 when RMT and gold trading between versions of wow didn’t exist, but when those are in the equation, its less about rarity or achievement and more about how much cash (in-game cash or real life cash) are you willing to pay for it. Basically Pay 2 Scarab
They shouldn’t even allow this to occur in SOD. It’s a joke to allow people to get something they never could in classic now when things are way easier. Scarab Lord was something only the most dedicated of players got. Now everyone and their mom can solo those elite bugs. Shameful
This right here is the core of the problem.
The solution?
Change how deputization works.
Either drastically increase cost of the deputizing people, 200 is just way too low and has resulted in half the server being able to solo farm.
Or make it so fragments can only be traded to the person that deputized you, this is ment to be a guild effort after all.
This does nothing to fix the current situation though, we just need a bunch of permanent layers and hyperspawning for the whole zone, twilight camps too.
