After 2 months of gathering all the mats for Sulfuron Hammer, I ended up getting scammed.
After agreeing for him to craft everything, we headed over to BRD and then I traded him everything at the Black Anvil. He then logged off without crafting it. He is now ignoring me, so I can’t message him anymore.
What can be done to get my materials back?
Submit a ticket to report the scammer, but the likelyhood that you are gonna get your stuff back is quite iffy. That is what I gathered from past occurances.
I have already done that. I’m hoping using the language ‘this may not’ as opposed to ‘this will not’ will allow me to get my items back. If it was not such a high ticket item, I’d assume I wouldn’t get anything back.
The only thing you can do now is wait for the ticket to be answered. It sucked you got scammed by that tool of a player.
Maybe Thunder knows more about this. Beat me to it…lol. My slow fingers.
OP, totally uncool here. These verbal agreements gone bad are unfortunate, and I’m not totally sure how Blizzard proceeds in this case. Maybe plead your case to a GM? It’s probably up to their discretion, but I’d make a ticket ASAP if not already with every detail possible.
There’s no case to plead, the GMs will look into it and see if a scam happened. There’s isn’t anything to talk one way into getting scammed items back. There’s like .001% of anyone getting their items back, which would most likely a limited time event to get it. If there’s a way to get the items again, they’re most likely say no.
If Blizz can verify a scam occurred, they will remove the items from the scammer. You may or may not get it back, but they will not be allowed to keep it either way.
from what I have seen and heard from other players, the scammer get the items removed, and gold from those sales are removed and gets a break from the game. It’s a dice roll whether the player gets his stuff back, sometimes they get reimbursed, sometimes not.
Chiming in here, since recently there was another fellow in a similar situation. Of course it is always best to try and work with someone who has a good rep for these sorts of things, but unfortunately that is not always an easy thing to vet.
As has been mentioned, the chances of your getting your materials or the forged item handed back to you are very, very slim. The only thing I can offer is again what others have already stated, that the person who took your things will have them removed from his inventory so that he does not profit from the scam in any way at all.
It doesn’t hurt for you to try and hope that maybe you’ll be one of those very few lucky ones who get their things back, but I would honestly just presume the items are lost to you. I am sorry that it happened and wish you a better resolution, but that is just the reality of the situation.
Blizzard will check the logs to see what the agreement between you and the other party was and use that as the basis for action against a scammer.
If you made the agreement through discord, you are out of luck as Blizzard cannot confirm what the details of the agreement were.
When blizzard has returned items, the agreements were spelled out in the logs and all mats were transferred through the trade window, and possibly mail now but in the past, they had to be transferred via the trade window.
So the user whole took all of the materials to craft the hammer, crafted the hammer for himself. There are no more mats to be had, as they all have been used to craft it.
dang…
Any word from your ticket?
I got the stock response so far, that essentially was the Trade Scams page you linked.
I do understand the risk of people taking advantage of trade scams, but I’ve had this same account since 2007 and have never done any sort of thing…why risk that now?
It just really sucks seeing the character walking around with the hammer, knowing that he broke our agreement to craft it for himself.
Oh man, that would be infuriating. Well, right now, they only thing you can do is inform that guys guild of what he did and warn off people that interact with him. Get the community involved, but keep it low key so you don’t run afoul of the rules.
Once they are finished with the investigation, it should be removed from them. The scammer doesn’t get to keep it.
As to whether you can recover your mats, I think you may have more hope than others seem to.
The returnability of mats or resources spent in a scam transaction has typically turned on whether the interchange is considered “supported” or “unsupported”. For instance, a gold-paid carry is “unsupported”, and the gold will be removed from the scammer but not returned to the victim.
Whereas a supported transaction has a history of being able to restore the victim. (From my recollection, anyway.)
It seems to me that using the trade UI ability to provide mats for a crafter to fabricate to order is the textbook example of a supported transaction. It’s what the UI was designed for.
But this is just my speculation. I haven’t heard anyone officially support this point of view.
I think Classic is a bit different, in that they don’t usually give the mats back. However, it is true that it is a supported transaction if it uses the in-game chat and the in-game trade window. That gives Blizzard logs of everything.
In rare circumstances, usually over very hard to acquire things, they have made exceptions to rules about replacing or redistributing things.
If the logs back the OP, I would hope the scammer at least loses the item and gold. The OP needs to be sure to follow up on the ticket and re-open it if they don’t get an answer. Name of involved party, Server, time, chat channel, items traded. Agreement. From there Blizz can locate the logs.
I believe that is just a difference between classic and retail. Retail considers trade skill use supported transactions - I believe it was this way even in vanilla - and will refund your mats. Classic just considers it a scam and won’t refund mats, generally,
I received a no answer from Blizzard, so have canceled my subscription. I know that I am not even a blip on their radar, but I couldn’t stand that service.
Thanks @Mirasol-mannoroth