Gear has to be gear at the same level no matter what content you do. The best idea blizzard ever had was throwing spirit, hit, expertise and w/e else in the crapper. Gear needs to be the least complex as possible with item level always being king then let players blow their brains out with secondary stats all they want. In bfa we had uldir specific traits iirc it felt so bad to lose that when doing other content.
Meanwhile pvpers had to pve all of bfa to pvp and even after our pvp gear got nerfed in torgast and pve early season m+ is still ahead of conquest caps and tier sets obtainable in pve trumped tier sets not being obtainable in pvp until catalyst last season
It’s a very one sided street where it’s fine if pvpers have to pve but suddenly its a sin if a pver has to get a conquest badge
Scaling should exist for everyone, at the very least nerf m+ and raid gear in pvp by 13 ilvls
Yeah, it certainly is funny seeing people not bother reclearing stuff and just killing all the bosses once so they can quit and not have to raid any more.
Ion wanted to make raiding a miserable chore, and for many he succeeded. He made raiding so bad, even he doesn’t do it anymore.
I doubt there’s many people left at Blizzard who raid. They claim to have an “in house team” that does the balancing, but we all saw what a terrific job they did in Sepulcher.
I don’t think any scaling should exist. PVP gear itemization is generally poor for PVE and given the honor upgrade requirement, I don’t think PVE’rs would be farming PVP for loot anymore. Heroic 5 mans and myth+ is a much better path for them.
On rare occasion someone might get a PVP weapon, but it’s also true that sometimes PVE pieces can be great in PVP. That’s fine, enough has been done to not make it a requirement to do the other anymore.
Again, with the honor scaling PVP gear in PVE, I don’t think that’s a problem going forward for dragonflight. All gear in PVP will have the same ilvl, so if PVErs feel the need to get PVP gear, just increase the honor amount required to upgrade gear until they don’t. That simple. Because the honor grind won’t actually effect PVP ilvl, only the PVE ilvl.
Let them complain. All PVP gear will have parity in PVP. As soon as you buy it. The only thing the honor grind upgrade path (in dragonflight, not current) will do is allow the PVE ilvl to increase. You can adjust the amount of honor required as needed to pace that however blizz want’s without effecting PVP at all.