I suppose my whole life is a lie then.
I mean, obviously, you are just lying.
Fact: there was a 5 man gnome mage multi boxer who got all 5 mages up to the rank of grand Marshall by multi boxing in battlegrounds. So clearly it can be done, he was talked about quite often on these forums.
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You guys seem to think multiboxing has to require follow. It doesn’t… It’s obviously smoother that way but they can keep the movement keys wasd bound on all client and make them all do the exact same thing. The downside is when cc occurs you can’t easily regroup them with follow but it’s still very doable.
It sounds like he heard about muliboxers selling their services to create extra bracket slots, but doesn’t really understand what that means.
Because PvP items are so hard to get in classic that people aren’t really doing PvP for PvP. They are doing it for the items.
They get the items then raid log.
Ranking in classic is a joke.
TBC can’t come soon enough.
I don’t rank but I’m the Gnome Terror of Silithius.
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Premade vs premade is the highest level of difficulty when it comes to team play. It’s the most challenging pvp form because of the organization, one mistake can mean you lose the bg.
Pug vs pug is your second most challenged type of bg.
Premade vs pug has the least challenge.
You say premades shouldn’t be punished for working together, the only reason they are is to get free honor. It’s not to play the game or over come challenges, it is to by pass it all and get the reward.
Premade vs premade would better the game for a challenge aspect, maybe they should just boost the honor for these types of games. So you can still farm honor faster if you’re a good team.
You’re fighting for is a simple way to keep easy honor flowing, what was the point of playing if ur skipping every challenge. You aren’t accomplishing anything, just wasting time for a digital reward. Stop cheesy the game in every way for gear.
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Everyone knew exactly what they were getting into with vanilla pvp
This is how pvp was in vanilla, and this is how its going to stay in classic
You idiots keep trying to “improve” classic as if this game is a current work in progress, its not, the game is what it is and always has been for the past 15 years.
The point of classic wow was to give people vanilla wow emulation, completely changing things such as different solo vs premade queues with different reward values is NOT in the cards for classic.
Just give it up already, this isn’t retail, your ideas to make the game better are pointless, classic pvp is what it is, everyone knows its a garbage system, but we asked for VANILLA WOW “warts and all”
Would i like a vanilla wow with a skill based RBG system that rewarded win rates rather than honor per hour? Sure, but that isn’t going to happen so its pointless trying to ask for it
Whoa easy there mate. No need for name calling. All we are asking for is a fix that used to be able to be made in vanilla through the means of pvp, but how are uncapable of doing so.
You see, if this was like vanilla, warts and all, we would have servers of about 3-5k players 7k max. And the servers would have had their own bgs for the most part of the classic play time.
Those two tie deeply into the issues we have now. On a server with 3-5k people, your name actually reflects upon what you do. Ninja some loot, might never get a group again, afk in bgs, people vote kick you and it sticks with a remembrance if you continue to repeat.
When you have 80,000 people on a server, it’s just much more difficult to manage who is a player just taking advantage of the game, so you just join in because you don’t want to be behind.
Bottom line is, nobody really has fun in premades vs pugs, well at least people who are playing the game to be challenged. I’m actually pretty sure some players like just being able to slaughter without any chance of losing.
The reason this game was so awesome, it had an ever ending challenge, the opposing faction, and with balanced servers and controlled populations, that would have returned, but now you just have players working together as a community to get rewards, and to do what exactly? Beat the game? The game is horde vs alliance, not lets be friends.
The system is so flawed with people right now because it’s all about working together to get this done as fast as possible. Good job, classic is here and gone like it wasn’t waited to be played. You’ve beat it.
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Keycloner, no /follow needed
Ya I cancelled my sub because BG’s are a joke in classic. I used to argue that they weren’t that bad, but eventually realized yes they are
I am not the first, nor will I be the last to go
Too bad Classic couldn’t have been more like the Vanilla we all remember and instead has been turned into a min/max gear manufacturing factory
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False. There wasn’t nearly the prevalence of premades in vanilla that there is in classic. Premades farming pugs existed, but the ratio was far, far less than classic, even after cross server
The systems are the same, the players are different, therefore the meta is different
Just like there wasn’t the “world buff meta” in vanilla. That is a classic player-driven creation
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Too bad we’re not all kids with child like expectations.
I’m 37 thanks, probably older than you
There’s nothing childish with wanting to re-live my vanilla experiences in battlegrounds. There is something childish with being too insecure to post on your classic char. I’m guessing you are so attached to your WoW char that you are worried something you say on the forums might reflect on your guild or in game reputation. And that means you are way too attached to your WoW char
Had yourself hiding on your retail alt, or literally anyone else, warned me when I was posting on the classic forums upon release of classic that there would be a min/max “world buff meta” in pve and a “mostly premade meta” in BG’s, I would have saved the 30ish RL days I wasted on this char. But no one predicted that BG’s would be 90% premades. No one. That is unfortunate
With tbc just around the corner it is extremely unlikely that anything will be fixed in classic wow in regards to PvP.
I’d suggest just giving up on classic PvP being good, it’s over. Won’t happen.
TBC has arenas and battlegrounds and PvP gear. Wait until then.
Personal attacks, huh? All I implied is that players today are older and wiser and hence, more focused and dedicated in their play.
???
It was very much clear.
Nope. I read the classic forums as much as you do on release of classic. I engaged in many discussions talking about how pvp would shape up. I was one of the few who mentioned that there would be “pvp ranking brackets” controlled by a group for the benefit of all rankers because that’s how it was done on my server in vanilla
Never in any of these discussions did anyone say “I bet BG’s are 90% premades and there will be so many premades that it will essentially bully all the solo players either into premades or out of doing BG’s. Even though there was probably only around 30% premades queueing in vanilla, there will be 90% in classic”
No one said that, or anything like that. If you can find a post of yourself or anyone else predicting that on the forums, I will say you are correct and never post about it again
Oh dear…
Oh wow. Well done
I guess I missed it. Kk I’ll shut up about it now
Either way I’m done because of it. It is still unfortunate that it is this way and I apparently missed the warning predictions
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There wasn’t so much rank buying, or multi boxing. Those have really messed up pvp.
There were tons of comments like that during phase 2.