San’layn/vampyr Elf ALLIED RACE Coagulated Megathread of Ideas{Re-VAMPed} (Part 1)

Hallow’s End has officially started in-game! Huzzah! :jack_o_lantern:

Today I got some videos showing how to make bat pumpkins:

And of course, some spooky music to make bat pumpkins to:

More fun posts to come in the near future! :man_vampire:

—15 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Hey Blizz it’s almost Halloween so give us our Castlevania elves.

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Driving people batty can be fun, though I feel like I’m just winging it at times. :bat:

For today’s post, I got some Do-It-Yourself (DIY) videos to share for some neat bat creations if you want some home-made bat decorations!

Bat Template for above video here:

And speaking of driving, here is some relaxing music you can drive or ride your mounts to:

10 days until Halloween! :jack_o_lantern: :man_vampire:

—13 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Halloween doesn’t have to be all horror and spooky things. It can be really adorable, like above. Bats are pretty awesome creatures if given the chance. :bat:

And speaking of sweet things, I got some recipes for vampire and bat cookies of different types for those interested:

And for food rich in taste, have rich music to go with it:

8 days until Halloween! :jack_o_lantern: :man_vampire:

—11 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Nothing like a cute bat to start your day. :bat:

For this post, I thought I’d link to a few San’layn art pieces, all meant to serve as playable Horde San’layn idea inspiration. All of them come from DeviantArt, which is a great source for art pieces in general.

First is Koltira as a Blood Prince, made by nighthair801 and uploaded on Oct. 31st, 2016.

“Koltira (The San’layn)” by nighthair801 on DeviantArt

Next is a San’layn in an armor set of some kind, which is helpful in imagining how San’layn could look in different types of armor. It was created by Elowly and uploaded to the website on Sept. 1st, 2017.

“Darkfallen San’layn Final” by Elowly on DeviantArt

And lastly is a female San’layn of a caster class of some kind. It was created by KityMewNeko and uploaded to the website on Oct. 31st, 2020.

“San’layn Design” by KityMewNeko on DeviantArt

As usual, I’ll be keeping an eye out for San’layn and general vampire related artwork to share for playable Horde San’layn idea inspiration.

And with Halloween getting closer, here is an exciting remix to listen to:

Also, since I’m at three posts in a row, if someone could make a post in here, I would appreciate it. I can’t post more than three times in a row in a thread I didn’t create, so if someone could post, I would greatly appreciate it!

5 days until Halloween! :jack_o_lantern: :man_vampire:

—8 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Since we’re sharing vampire art here, I’ll pop in and share a piece I got for my OC from LOU R. PENA. This isn’t a San’layn, he’s a vampiric elezen from FFXIV, but still a vampire elf so it counts. He could easily fit into WoW with a few tweaks.

(Would love eyebrow shorteners for blood elves myself. Yet another thing that could have been even slightly more exciting than just hair colors they’re touting as something ‘big’.)

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Baby fruit bats are just puppies with wings.

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I could care less about the highelf model, but magic intertwined with their addictions turning them into vampires would be a welcome narrative direction.

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Yeah.

Unfortunately blood elves (and void elves) in my eyes have been turned into generic vanilla elves with no bite at all. I used to be intrigued that they could be ‘beautiful monsters’ of sorts, or close enough to it, through the story in BC.

Now… they’ve become incredibly boring. Aside from the ‘ah I actually had edge once’ of Blood Elves, they’re no different than high elves. I mean, they are high elves. Void elves (which in my opinion should have gone horde, but meh) ironically capture, you know. What drew me to blood elves in the first place.

Though I have no interest in void elves because I really do not like the alliance as a whole. I don’t like the horde either, granted, but it’s still better than the alliance (personal opinion, sorry alliance fans). Granted given the choice, I would pick factionless. I hate the faction war and races being forced to tied to it.

So all of that said - yeah. Having elves with an actual bite that aren’t turned into some basic bichon frisés would be nice. Bonus if it’s vampires, because obviously I love vampires. Which we have the lore for, right there, and it has what could be even more interesting story behind it. Nuance. Similar to the DK stories.

Magic morphing them into more monsterous forms (though I’d like options for BOTH being beautiful and ugly rather than just ugly, please) would be nice. Bat-like ears. noses. Fangs (a variety). Claws, wings, scars, there’s a lot that can be done. Monster bat forms (like the worgen).

Also why felblood elves intrigued me, because they were what imo blood elves could have been and would have actually made me really interested, at least moreso than I am now. I was hoping we’d get felblood stuff with the customization pass as opposed to ‘please be excited about new hair colors that should just be shared across every single race’.

I know most people like the ‘basic elf’ formula, but what blood elves had offered was more unique, aaand now that’s gone. I wish we could have both.

Instead, now… I just… yeah. There’s no cross between ‘beautiful’ and ‘monster’ in this game. Any edge to more nice-looking races is stripped away. Man’ari are the closest things right now to it, but nope to the alliance, and void elves are getting more generic high elf customization than anything actually void related, so. :dracthyr_shrug:

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Halloween is getting close! The excitement is in the air! :bat:

For this post, I have a video that goes over the history of vampires, of which there are plenty of videos on the subject on YouTube. A fitting time to post such a subject for a fitting place!

:warning: Viewer discretion is advised for the video below, due to some imagery, scenery, and topics discussed during the video:

And speaking of time, another Castlevania clock tower theme seems fitting:

3 days until Halloween! :jack_o_lantern::man_vampire:

—6 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Just sayin…

Halloween is tomorrow! I figured it would be a good time to celebrate with some general bat fact videos:

And since time is running out before Halloween, how about a song to rush to for last minute Halloween preparations:

1 more day until Halloween! :jack_o_lantern::man_vampire:

—4 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Happy Halloween! :jack_o_lantern::man_vampire:

Thought I would link some more spooky music to celebrate the day. The following videos have multiple tracks and should have timestamps in the YouTube pages for them under Description:

And of course, this organ music I’ve linked many times before when I mention the idea of San’layn in the Ghostlands with their leader playing something similar to this on occasions that would echo through the area:

Whatever your plans are for today, please have a fun, happy, and safe Halloween! :vampire: :woman_vampire:

—3 days until Blizzcon starts (Nov. 3rd)!—

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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Hot dang, this post is old. But i agree, would LOVE san’layn customizations. I’d take these over dark ranger elves

In fact a lot of people would. But Blizz will be blizz and add customization options hardly anybody wants, except for the vocal few

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I’m starting to think that they aren’t going to shadowdrop our castlevania elves for Halloween :stuck_out_tongue:

Hey, it’s your friendly neighborhood elf who won’t shut up about vampires, back again to be either obnoxious or inspirational.

Your choice.

So! We know what’s coming for Allied Races, and I’m not intrigued by the Earthen coming along - however, I know a niche community is, like with mechagnomes, and that’s great for them. Definitely happy for them.

One important thing of note is that Earthen do have lore and have been in the game a long while, so they’re not just pulling a random Allied Race out of nowhere. It does in fact fit the theme of the expansion, and even if lackluster to some, is a race that’s been in the game and makes sense to be playable.

Here’s the thing - it could have been customization, but it wasn’t. What does that mean for us?

It means we can stop meekly asking for scraps and to be ‘just customization with a few quests’. Unfortunately, that was the fate with Dark Rangers and Man’ari.

Man’ari in the very least should have been an allied race, or had more to them, like fel scarring. Honestly, they should have been given WAY more love and care than what they got.

Dark Rangers meanwhile don’t even have the eye color and skin separated which is still ridiculous.

Yet, we’ve seen the dwarves which really don’t deviate much from DID be added as a fully fleshed AR and all. Which is actually a wonderful thing - because now, any of us asking for things like San’layn, or any other ‘race too similar to the original EVEN IF WE SUGGESTED DRASTIC CHANGES BY THE WAY’ has a lot of merit.

I really hope if they’re not going to AR-ify Man’ari, they add more to the customization aspect and even more quests so they’re not left behind.


So, I feel like this thread will return to its original direction. No - I’m not going to post as often as I was before. I’[ll pop in to share ideas based on what’s going on or what I hear about or give thumbs up to ideas here.

But we know from “Midnight” there are ‘scattered elf tribes’ we are reuniting. What’s one of the scattered elf tribes we KNOW have been looking for a home? :thinking:

Could it be…

San’layn?

Also, we’re returning to Northrend after that.

So this all should reinvigorate the idea of San’layn as a FULL allied race in general. I meekly accepted ‘fine, customization with a few quests before’, but clearly?

We can ask for a full AR, we have a bounty of amazing customization ideas and story ideas here. Let’s continue and make ourselves heard folks.

I’d like to do a recap post at some point as a reminder of some good story beats that could be used for San’layn - but one thing I want everyone to think about that’s interested in San’layn is how they very well know the inner workings of the scourge, which are still rampaging in northrend - and would be an amazing ally to counter that when we return to Northrend.

They’d even be great against the Nerubians, having worked with them in some fashion, but there’s no sign of them in this upcoming expansion yet, so my eyes are on the future with ‘Midnight’.

Edit: Okay main thread is emphasizing AR now and that’s all no longer hidden.

Buuuut the highlighted threads on there are outdated, so I guess…we should start brainstorming new highlights, and relevancy, because they’re definitely relevant again but in a different way :sweat_smile:

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I’m left wondering if they might do more if it’s going to be an actual class option via the heroic talents. Would be a nice thing to do.

San’layn definitely need to be a thing.
I was also getting vibes that maybe the dragonkin could become a playable option with the way the questlines with them were going, but maybe not, or maybe it’s something planned later on. I mean they’ve teased Broken possibly becoming a thing.

Wildhammer could have had more options as well, but it feels like we are kinda getting those options, just on a new allied race instead. Kinda feel like there could be some crossover there.

I’d really like to see them flesh things out more. There’s a number of things definitely deserving of it, and a lot of races people want to be able to play as.

The inclusion of the nerubians in the upcoming expansion kind of has me thinking it’s too bad the Nightborne aren’t on better terms with the Fal’dorei. Seems like they’d be a great asset when delving into locations they’d happily call home.

Saw another good point…The Last Titan could be another real good opportunity with us going back to Northrend, but before then would be even better.

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They definitely should, and they were a shoutout at the con, so who knows.

As for San’layn, yes they do for sure. Now there’s a much higher chance, hopefully we’ll see them show up in story in the future again. The “scattered elf tribes” thing is super fascinating, I feel like there is a high chance of that at least including the San’layn, which would actually be interesting to explore.

I don’t know about dwarves much, so I’m not sure what the fanbase would say to counter that one :sweat_smile:

But yeah. The thing with San’layn is, as we’ve pointed out, there’s so much you can do with them and so much lore that can evolve/be added to. The blood curse, connection to vry’kul, all that sort of thing. The ways one can be turned, how the curse could mutate the bearer, powers gained.

Don’t think people realize how flexible San’layn in particular can be when they just see ‘another elf’. There’s so much elbow room to add.

I mean, even look at the Earthen here and how they’ve changed and have gems all over them. That wasn’t a thing before, it’s additive lore.

Same thing can happen easily with San’layn. They need a chance to grow and be given love from the writing in the story. They at least have interesting story to grow off of unlike certain other elf-related additions people want (and already have…) that I just feel are incredibly boring.

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The Q&A thread has opened and I asked a questions on behalf of a few race request megathreads. I’ll post a link to the post and the question I asked for this megathread below:

“Given the mention of tribes of Elves, going back to Northrend, and that they were offered to join the Horde in BfA, will we see more of the San’layn in the future and work with them in the near future?”

Worth a try, even if it will likely not get answered.

I’ve got a lot to say with the expansions announcements, an odd thing to type out there, but as mentioned, it seems like the chances of San’layn as their own race instead of being a Customization Race may have risen. Tribes of elves mentioned? A return to Northrend? Interesting things to say…

Expectations tempered of course, but anyway, I’ll type more when I get a chance. Regardless, I stand by the San’layn as a playable Horde race and will continue to support them to the best of my abilities. :man_vampire:

–Still dreaming of playable Horde San’layn as a full race! :wine_glass::bat:

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So want this. Great thread. Maybe we might see something about this in Midnight, since its elf focused.

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