San’layn/vampyr Elf ALLIED RACE Coagulated Megathread of Ideas{Re-VAMPed} (Part 1)

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Ye! get some cool vampy ones (that are doctor approved)

XD

The obvious is Azjol’Nerub, there’s a LOT down there we don’t know about, a lot that’s probably better off staying buried… fear the old blood

They could also be back in Silvermoon and we just can’t realistically see since SIlvermoon hasn’t been updated since TBC so it’s just two streets.

Was the Princess in Violet Hold round 2 captured in the broken isles or originally apprehended in Northrend?

They could also be in Gilneas, or have the Worgen taken that back and cleared it out of undead and plague?

They could also be in the Plaguelands or Ghostlands, ESPECIALLY now that the Scourge is acting up again.

1 or the other or even 1 that leads to the other, probably due to time constraints and didn’t want to flood with too many San’layn?

I hope so glares at unfinished quill

That is a very good question and shows they’re tying this all together, Vampyr origins in Legion, San’layn recruitment attempt in BFA, Venthyr with Kael’thas in SL, those Anima orbs look a LOT like that mystical super San’layn resurrection orb thingy the Blood Princes had.

Then there’s the Dreadlords and tossing plots hooks back out ooooooo so much to think about.

Wouldn’t doubt it, wouldn’t even be surprised if they turn up with a sorta gargoyle lookin super mode, Undead are nothing is not transformative.

The constant thirst? Going off the Prince’s dialog I wouldn’t doubt it.

That’d be very interesting if it’s in Alliance custody rather than being destroyed.

I’d say they got the eff outta Nazmir reeaaaaaal quick, Silverpine I hadn’t considered, I wonder if they’re holed up in Shadowfang Keep?

I’d say since they’re “new” and an offshoot of Blood Elves that’s it just a magnified take on Blood Elves rather than something unique.

I wouldn’t doubt it, more so in that they’d be allowed more freedom to interact with the Forsaken and the Forsaken wouldn’t mind them, I don’t foresee Lorthemar allowing them free reign. This is of course not counting actual family members and what not.

Yes, more questlines with the Murloc professor as we investigate this please.

Was it corrupted alcohol? Magic is kinda woven into everything in the wow universe (meta, all our abilties are called spells, even the martial ones), so at the very least it’s “gotta use Vampyr magic to make more Vampyr”.

The bite, the need to feast/drink is a hallmark of the San’layn and goes beyond the mere physical act of drinking, just like Forsaken and Cannibalize, it’s something they’re compelled to do, it resets things in them, it rewards them, empowers them. Lots of magic involved in something disguised as a simple chomp.

Probably wouldn’t be happy about the whole fel traitor thing but they’re not quite ones to throw shade there. They were his most loyal followers in life after all. I see more siding with him than against him.

Wouldn’t doubt it, just how in the specifics? New body formed (Liches?), or his soul put into another corpse/San’layn (Teron Gorefiend?).

Either or, they all wear those nifty high collars so we can’t see much variation. As for making one to play I’d go all fangs, I like visual.

Just the mortals I’d say it’d be a matter of taste, for actual benefits it would depend on more “infused” creatures so to speak, such as Demon Hunters and souls vs demon souls.

We need to bring back the blood trolls so we can set them up like the days of old, get vampire Stromkar and everything XD

Speaking of I’m glad they didn’t forgot about the original designation that Vrykul were all vampires in the lead up to Wrath, made them a lot more interesting than just “tall vikings”.

You know there will.

Seeing as how they got brought back into the Alliance after the Lich King was dealt with I don’t see anything from that time but i wouldn’t doubt it if starting lore “post-reveal” has them form enmity specifically because of that trope.

That’s also an interesting thought, wouldn’t doubt it, with the way it’s transferred in the blood I wouldn’t doubt it if the curse itself picks a San’layn to “promote” to keep it succint, would explain the wings Queen and Princess have.

Might be limited/bottlenecked, might need a certain catalyst to empower, so many drank from, so much power, super San’layn resurrection orb thingy, etc

It could be, or it could have been Lana’thel just redoing the ranks of her companions that she had in life.

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Non serious answer, Arthas picked them based on a dubious book about elves he read while still alive.

Do you think he gave her room the harem design or was that Lana’s preference?

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Interestingly, Elisande has a literal harem setup. I’d say it’s totally a cultural thing shared between Nightborne & High/Blood Elves! Lana got to decorate herself!

I wonder where they sourced the silk from…

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They do have a literal kingdom of spooders beneath them.

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Yeah that allure seems to be present with elves & vampires. People freak out and say ‘oh well yadayadayada notarealmonster’ while completely ignoring things like siren/other mythical beings that bait/lure victims by certain assets. I think it’s a really cool thing, actually, that a monster can be beautiful/handsome but at the same time very capable of ripping someone limb from limb. I also love the reverse, the ‘horrifying to look at’ monster that in reality is sweet/curious. I’m not one who likes expectations/stereotypes myself, and tropes work in some places (done well), in others, they do not.

Wonder how the San’layn would get along with the Nightborne? Seems like San’layn, Sin’dorei, and Nightborne would have quite the party. (Well, blood elves PRIOR to becoming a loooot more boring in my personal opinion, meh.)

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hearthstone_gamepedia/images/8/82/Sir_Finley_Mrrgglton(127389).png
Best murloc.

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Just saying, I would have a total of 0 complaints if Mrrgleton was involved in the recruitment scenario for the vampyr. I know I only saw him briefly in Stormheim, but he was lots of fun. I’d love for him to make friends with friendly vampyr, maybe to explore the curse more!

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If you wanna see more of him, get the Tombs of Terror adventure in Hearthstone. You play as him, and he gets tons of dialog. It’s great.

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Makes sense! I don’t prefer the game myself if I’m going to be honest, just not my thing >< Might look up videos of his dialogue someday though!

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One way they could go is having an alternate form as a racial powerup or a toggle or something that has more monstrous customization options compared to your regular look. You could do the best of both have it be a toggle like shadowform for priests, but have an added right click option on the icon (like some pet abilities) toggle on and off, but when right clicked it toggles on during combat and off after.
Just throwing out ideas. It’s not something we’ve seen though currently that I can think of.

I thought it was interesting you don’t really see much blood magic used in Revendreth until you got to the raid, then there’s a number of bosses that do. So Blood magic is used there.

Would be a cool way to do a demon hunter class variant.

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I posted this in both my megathreads, but felt it was important to post it in other ones. I made a step by step guide on how to submit in-game feedback to suggest races to become playable while also referring to their respective megathreads on here. It’s something I think is important to do as part of a way to show support for races to become playable and bring attention to our megathreads for them.

Once a month on only one character, I send an in-game suggestion for the races I want playable. I do one suggestion for each race and refer to their megathreads on the official US WoW forums for more information. It’s something I don’t regularly do, as I don’t want to spam the system, but it is something I try to at least do occasionally.

If you’re interested in submitting in-game feedback for any races you are interested in becoming playable, here is how to get to it in game:

Step 1: Press ESC to bring up the general menu.

Step 2: Click “Support.” It’s at the very top of the menu.

A new window in-game should load. It can take a few seconds for it to load completely. Underneath the “Search World of Warcraft Support” search bar, you should see a line of square images that refer to specific categories of support.

Step 3: Click the “Submit feedback or bug report” square. It should be on the far left when you first load the support window.

It’ll take a second to load that part.

Step 4: Click the lightbulb icon on the right that says “Submit a suggestion”

Step 5: Click in the text box on this window to begin typing a suggestion.

You’re now ready to submit an in-game suggestion!

It’s limited to 500 characters you can type, so you have to be a bit creative in the limited space. As I said before, I usually do one suggestion for each race I want playable, giving a very brief mention of the race, the faction I want it for, and why I feel they’d be great to add. I then make sure to type the name of the associated megathread, assuming they have a megathread, and mention they’re on the official US WoW forums, stating to go there for more info, such as ideas, fan support/designs, ongoing discussions, etc.

When you submit the feedback, it states you won’t get a response, but that it’ll be looked at in some way. Now, this wouldn’t be a sure-fire way to get a race playable, but it can’t hurt to do so in my opinion. After all, we have to show support somehow!

So for those interested in supporting a race you want playable, this is how to do it in-game. As I said, I usually do this once a month (on just one character) at most so as to not spam the system. However, multiple people doing it could help a lot to showing support for races we’d love to see playable.

Also make sure you’re submitting a suggestion and not a bug. I mean, yes, the character creation screen lacking playable San’layn is quite the game-breaking bug (with an easy fix!), but a suggestion will likely be received better as opposed to sending that as a bug report.

As I said, I do this for my most wanted races each month, and San’layn are one of them. I don’t know how much it helps to do it, but I don’t think it hurts to find reasonable avenues to bring attention to playable San’layn support and this megathread in particular. :wine_glass::bat:

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Completely random, and open to anyone here, what all pets do you have out (if you bother with them) with your San’layn and/or gothic characters in game? Or any character really, don’t know how popular they really are.

On Zazda I have the Blighted Squirrel until I can get enough friggin Grateful offerings to purchase THE-SQUISHY-CUTENESS-THAT-MUST-NOT-BE-NAMED (because the ingame chat doesn’t allow it).

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I’m too boring to bother with pets most of the time, except occasionally when I want a second succubus on a warlock.

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I haven’t been playing Felcula lately, but when I do I typically don’t bother with pets on him.

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Whole reason I went to Black Temple :3

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The pets I go with generally fit the character’s story, to be honest. Therefore, a lot don’t match their ‘theme’, and they are interchangeable as the years go. Granted, I’m going to be transparent, I don’t even log in anymore at all (haven’t done anything since blizzconline), even to roleplay, as I get no joy from the game. But when I was actually playing, Fallynn usually had dragon whelps with her, years ago, because she rescues them. Vampyr can’t have children, so it was an adoption situation.

Since she was created years ago (beginning of Legion), some of her whelps have grown into drakes, and so, I don’t use those as pets for her anymore. Some, however, were on the younger side, so will be children for a few more years.

Picture reference for Falls (this toon):

^ Here she is with one of her adopted whelps. This is by https://twitter.com/MizunoSuzuka

Now, when we look at mounts, that’s a different story, generally Falls ‘matches’ her type. She uses the Blood Tick, the Widow (2M spider), & the bat from revendreth I got as a lucky drop. I hesitate using shadowlands pets/mounts but just say they’re ‘bats or foxes of Azeroth’ because putting aside the fact that I utterly hate Shadowlands lore, they look close enough to Azeroth fauna to justify it.

Now, with Elias, he was active in WoD, and ended up saving a tiny felpup. He has this intimating look to him, and is a generation 1 San’layn (turned at the time Lana’thel was, in that original group), and so, is a Blood Prince. He was known as “the butcher” in his scourge days due to being so excellent at bloodshed.

With him, I tend to match him with cuter pets, like tiny wolf pups (though they grow up too and eventually become mounts, like the felwolf pup would now be a battle hound). I do use “The count” for him, as a tiny bat that just happened to follow him around, so that one does match the ‘vampyr’ thing.

Here is how he looks:

This art is by https://twitter.com/Ictus_Serpentis and as you can see, he’s heavily scarred due to constant combat. But with pets, I like to show his softer side.

Then there’s Rexton, my San’layn bard:

and this is by https://twitter.com/Harcloniterxd

He is a mage, and I use the spectral rabbit on him as a ‘familiar’ of sorts that developed a personality. In character, the rabbit does have glowing red eyes.

Those are just some examples of my characters and what I do, but I generally go with the ‘backstory and feel’ of the characters as opposed to ‘theme’. That, again, all depends. The vampyr I play are unusual (this is how I play them, my headcanon lore) and a lot of them started off as ‘evil’ but ran into situations which challenged their true morals, which ended up turning them into (very violent) antiheroes (so like Death Knights or Demon Hunters).

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nods

Zazda rides around on the Prestigious Ivory Courser. She’s from Lordaeron , she likes horsies.

Until I get Midnight. Someday.

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Just to add on to this, you can also copy the appearance of High Priest Andorath from Borean Tundra as well.

https://i.imgur.com/SuBs1gY.png

Darn, I’ve been away for quite a while.

My TL3 has eroded away.

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Oh yes, mounts. I tend to match the mount to the character either visually or thematically. For example, my Dark Rangers ride bats, and my Garrosh cosplay rides a Bronze Drake.

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I appreciate you showing me this. It helps to find different models of races that I could use to pretend to be a player character of said race. I’m already thinking on potential places and stories to do for screenshots in the future for different megathreads (including this one).

It’s odd that the Darkfallen Deathblade mob is pick-pocketable, but Glyph of Disguise doesn’t work on them. Apparently I can steal their steamy romance novels, but I can’t become them via an illusion. Go figure.

I did take a few quick screenshots with one of the models I discovered:

Took a quick screenshot of a random place in Oribos. I haven’t gotten to Revendreth on this Rogue character, so I was thinking I might take some images there sometime, though flying would be really helpful in that regard.

If San’layn became a Horde allied race in BfA. Oh what could have been…

In front of the throne at the Zandalari capital. Wanted to take another angle in the area.

Oh BfA…so much potential, so many missed opportunities. Still hope we see that offer for the San’layn joining the Horde still open in the future, though. :wine_glass::bat:

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