San’layn/vampyr Elf ALLIED RACE Coagulated Megathread of Ideas{Re-VAMPed} (Part 1)

10/08/2018 05:00 PMPosted by Fallynn
Now then, we should move on to discuss more compelling things that have to do with us in general. Responding to every 'no more elf!' person won't help us at all, especially since a lot ignore our responses (I know not every single one does, and some are kind ans make good arguments, but this is in my opinion and from my observations.) and don't care to put in the effort to reading the first post. Which is fine, I suppose.

The starting scenario--what would we want it to be like? Where would we like it to take place? If we had the ability to choose, anyway...

I honestly think Northrend would be the best place. And, hear me out, a specific spot in Northrend. The highest concentration of San'layn in the game was in Borean Tundra back in wrath. En'kilah. That choke point was mighty important, and that's where we learned that Valanar has a lot of trickery up his sleeve. I even think that a redone Naxxanar can be done again.

Supposing we did get Naxxanar as a 'starting zone' for our vampyr, what kind of art do we want to see? Lots of reds, blood orbs, kinda regal-gothic style things that only San'layn would offer? We know void elves have a voidish, very dark look. San'layn would take a different route, going with more royal blood reds, and possibly golds. Some artwork of bats, or even tons of bats flying about would be super neat.

Or, what about the entire Temple City of En'kilah? Might be asking a bit much, but it's fun to consider regardless :)


I can't see many better areas than that area, full city or not, besides perhaps (and less likely than the whole temple city) would be the actual Blood Wing of ICC. Though repurposing a dungeon or raid might be a bit on the tricky side.
The only part where it gets strange is that most of the 'home locations' have been in EK or Kalimdor, save for the Pandarians. Then again, we know that a necropolis can move, so it's entirely possible it's Naxxanar but relocated to someplace (perhaps near Orgrimmar or the ruins of Undercity?).
Imagine a Necropolis floating along in Pandaria. Hahaha.... I can't. Well, Dread Wastes MAYBE. But it still wouldn't make sense.

Northrend is the best spot I think. Undercity seems majorly lost, I don't think that returning there would be a good idea. Plus, Northrend is awesome and returning would be amazing (yes, I know this is just an opinion.)
10/09/2018 08:06 AMPosted by Fallynn
Imagine a Necropolis floating along in Pandaria. Hahaha.... I can't. Well, Dread Wastes MAYBE. But it still wouldn't make sense.

Northrend is the best spot I think. Undercity seems majorly lost, I don't think that returning there would be a good idea. Plus, Northrend is awesome and returning would be amazing (yes, I know this is just an opinion.)
while not for San'layn specifically, i think the best spot for a Necropolis right now would be for the upcoming Darkshore warfront. since it's supposed to be heavily forsaken vs night elf themed (whereas Arathi is Orcs vs Humans) i think a good choice for the horde's base would be a Necropolis. have to capture 4 bases on the map to open up the portal into the necropolis. unfortunately i do now know if the Night Elves have anything remotely equivalent to them so we'll probably just get a "treehouse vs Brill" situation.

as for the San'layn, they could bring it with them to Zandalar to allow their horde allies to use it as a staging center of sorts. i don't know of a better way to have Sylvanas launch an attack on Kul Tiras and the Alliance other than a giant menacing Necropolis spewing forth bat riders with Blight canisters or bombs. and who knows, maybe the San'layn could better the Blight with their blood magic for a more devastating result.
That would be an interesting use of a Necropolis, yes; I don't think they'll implement it for the warfront, but I don't know. I think it'd be more fun to have one that we could enter, rather than just having it be used for a weapon. I think even if we don't get a Necropolis, En'kilah would be awesome.
MEGATHREAD PART TEN WHEN? Smileyface
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1050036586442907650

Looks like there's either currently a bug with the night elf things, or this is what night warrior really will look like. Which... has me concerned. We do see the San'layn Marquess having red eyes on her model, which is great.

But that model isn't playable. I'm just hoping that by adding red eyes for night elves (if this is in fact not a bug), they don't shut it down for a chance to add San'layn as a playable race with red eyes because they'd claim 'they need to keep it special for the Alliance'. :(
10/10/2018 09:45 AMPosted by Fallynn
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1050036586442907650


I believe it's as Gandem said, It's a graphical glitch, those are the skins from the raised Nelfs in the questline. These are forsaken not night warriors.
10/10/2018 10:53 AMPosted by Junivi
10/10/2018 09:45 AMPosted by Fallynn
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1050036586442907650


I believe it's as Gandem said, It's a graphical glitch, those are the skins from the raised Nelfs in the questline. These are forsaken not night warriors.

Ah ok, good to hear. That's the feedback I've been getting for it, which gives some relief. Besides, I liked the original Night Warrior look for my night elf anyway, red eyes fit more with undeath and such.
10/10/2018 09:45 AMPosted by Fallynn
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1050036586442907650

Looks like there's either currently a bug with the night elf things, or this is what night warrior really will look like. Which... has me concerned. We do see the San'layn Marquess having red eyes on her model, which is great.

But that model isn't playable. I'm just hoping that by adding red eyes for night elves (if this is in fact not a bug), they don't shut it down for a chance to add San'layn as a playable race with red eyes because they'd claim 'they need to keep it special for the Alliance'. :(


*Laughs in Alliance*

>:3
So... things have been datamined, folks. Friends and members of our discord have found the following:
-Higher Resolution banner: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499709161664413707/unknown-1.png
-Banner on a stick:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499702133109686297/unknown.png
-San'layn blood fog:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499706260946419725/unknown.png
-AN UNTEXTERED BLOOD PRINCE MODEL:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499707518897881089/unknown.png

Guys, this is huge. GIGANTIC. These files are for 8.1. The scenario is current content... we have another prince most likely, folks! THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!
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10/10/2018 03:29 PMPosted by Fallynn
So... things have been datamined, folks. Friends and members of our discord have found the following:
-Higher Resolution banner: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499709161664413707/unknown-1.png
-Banner on a stick:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499702133109686297/unknown.png
-San'layn blood fog:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499706260946419725/unknown.png
-AN UNTEXTERED BLOOD PRINCE MODEL:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499707518897881089/unknown.png

Guys, this is huge. GIGANTIC. These files are for 8.1. The scenario is current content... we have another prince most likely, folks! THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!


Been trying not to get too excited in case Blizz says no but this is VERY interesting. I wonder who the new blood prince is though.
10/10/2018 03:29 PMPosted by Fallynn
So... things have been datamined, folks. Friends and members of our discord have found the following:
-Higher Resolution banner: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499709161664413707/unknown-1.png
-Banner on a stick:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499702133109686297/unknown.png
-San'layn blood fog:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499706260946419725/unknown.png
-AN UNTEXTERED BLOOD PRINCE MODEL:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499707518897881089/unknown.png

Guys, this is huge. GIGANTIC. These files are for 8.1. The scenario is current content... we have another prince most likely, folks! THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!


Are those new?

I'm excited.

It might not be leading to them being playable but it still means they are on the scene.

The untextured Blood Prince could mean they plan to update the texture but not the model. Or it's supposed to be some kind of shadowy figure.

If I have to piece this together, I would guess that there is a San'layn base, but not one they built themselves, just set up banners. Perhaps in hiding or in another's base.

This could be an introduction to the Horde Player base that they need to be a fully posible allied race for the Horde.
10/10/2018 03:29 PMPosted by Fallynn
So... things have been datamined, folks. Friends and members of our discord have found the following:
-Higher Resolution banner: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499709161664413707/unknown-1.png
-Banner on a stick:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499702133109686297/unknown.png
-San'layn blood fog:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499706260946419725/unknown.png
-AN UNTEXTERED BLOOD PRINCE MODEL:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440659490468134933/499707518897881089/unknown.png

Guys, this is huge. GIGANTIC. These files are for 8.1. The scenario is current content... we have another prince most likely, folks! THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!


Untextured blood prince model?!?

So... they're planning on updating the old texture that's been around since Wrath? There are only a few reasons why they'd take the time to do that.

Holy hell, that's...that's HIGHLY encouraging!
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We’re especially going crazy over the fact that one looks vagueling reminiscent of the recruitment banners in the embassy. Hype? HYPE!
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10/10/2018 04:08 PMPosted by Lueran
We’re especially going crazy over the fact that one looks vagueling reminiscent of the recruitment banners in the embassy. Hype? HYPE!


Eat your heart out, Lightforged Undead and Dark Ranger Night Elves!
Flag comparison, New to old:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/499729189025611776/499729945749094401/Flagcomparison.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449364126515462147/499727479171186688/scourge.png More comparison, pretending it could be a recruitment flag. Could just stick a pole into it.
10/10/2018 04:56 PMPosted by Fallynn
Flag comparison, New to old:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/499729189025611776/499729945749094401/Flagcomparison.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449364126515462147/499727479171186688/scourge.png More comparison, pretending it could be a recruitment flag. Could just stick a pole into it.


Wait, I'm blind. What's the difference between the new/old flags? Is one a slightly higher def texture?
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10/10/2018 04:30 PMPosted by Rorrand
10/10/2018 04:08 PMPosted by Lueran
We’re especially going crazy over the fact that one looks vagueling reminiscent of the recruitment banners in the embassy. Hype? HYPE!


Eat your heart out, Lightforged Undead and Dark Ranger Night Elves!


*bonks Rorr on the snout*

lightforged undead are my trigger!
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10/10/2018 05:03 PMPosted by Rorrand
10/10/2018 04:56 PMPosted by Fallynn
Flag comparison, New to old:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/499729189025611776/499729945749094401/Flagcomparison.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449364126515462147/499727479171186688/scourge.png More comparison, pretending it could be a recruitment flag. Could just stick a pole into it.


Wait, I'm blind. What's the difference between the new/old flags? Is one a slightly higher def texture?

Yeah the newer one is more HD, a smoother blade, more defined crystal with the glow, center of the orb looks a tad different.
10/10/2018 05:06 PMPosted by Swiftraven
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Eat your heart out, Lightforged Undead and Dark Ranger Night Elves!


*bonks Rorr on the snout*

lightforged undead are my trigger!


So this... this is how the Battle for Azeroth breaks out in earnest.

*fixes snoot*

There shall be much blood spilled this day.

10/10/2018 05:06 PMPosted by Fallynn
10/10/2018 05:03 PMPosted by Rorrand
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Wait, I'm blind. What's the difference between the new/old flags? Is one a slightly higher def texture?

Yeah the newer one is more HD, a smoother blade, more defined crystal with the glow, center of the orb looks a tad different.


Eh.. I'm having a hard time seeing it. But if it's a new asset, it's a new asset, and that's still good news! New assets for San'layn can only be a promising development.