It applying Flame Shock to the target hit and 5 other targets would be the perfect thing it would need. Then you have lava lash as a back up for say 2 adds that just happened to outside the range or spawned late.
That would be cool
That would be a huge step in the right direction. They could make the aoe radiate from the shaman or the target- either would be fine.
And I also agree with you that the clunkiness and general dislike comes from the setup in aoe. It gets old having to do the whole song and dance on every pack, or every 23ish seconds if the pack lives that long.
Make p wave an actual cone wave in front of the character that applied flame shock to everything in front of you with a cap of like 5 or 8 at least idk
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like wise ppl defending pwave when they have their lashing flames procsâŚ
problem with storm: pathing, rng, and soâŚ
People wants variety, the class REALLY lacks of some dev focus, and make the tier set based on the talents in the lower part of the tree spec was an AWFUL decision and Now TWW⌠zero communication, either u are a druid/pala/warlock or you can just die forgotten.
EDIT: Faminex srsly⌠bro, is every comment you do in this forum always this aggresive? like anybody can have their own point of view except when they are against yours /s. go touch some grassâŚ
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yes, as the majority of opinions here are bad and sourced from bad players. the same players that, when challenged, have nothing to offer - unless youâre avih, who canât hear anything except the voice in their own head.
if you would like an example of such nonsense though:
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You realize how many times youâve like aggressively tried to insult people, for no reason? I honestly donât know why blizz doesnât take action on someone that truly just comes here to troll, call others names, and otherwise doesnât even attempt to add anything to a conversation. Bringing me up like that is just a straight personal attack.
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only a select few who are consistently annoying or have no idea what theyâre talking about yeah
more delusion on your end
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Now this is the Shaman forums in a nutshell. People giving their opinions on something based on faulty information.
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care to explain? afaik enhancement is still the defacto âRNG priorityâ spec, ppl throwed sh!t on Storm players bc it was a button smasher, then when someone take a look at the top players playing elementalist and âoh, surprise, just Lava Lash then Lightning Boltâ the difference for storm is that it is being more obvious.
correct, a build plagued by doing nothing but drooling on one button
Iâm glad you know how to hover over damage meters, but you boiling down all of elementalist and comparing it to storms play style like this is not only hilarious, but very telling.
IMO any build that focuses excessively on spamming a single ability, especially to the point of ignoring resources, badly needs a redesign. The RNG on top of the spamming just makes it worse.
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Elemental build is the most fun for me for all content. Storm strike build and lava burst are the same stupid thing for both shaman specs. I do wish we could away from that permanently while still keeping a good choice of playstyle between focusing more on the wind element or the fire element for enh at least. I dont do much ele so my opinions there are scarce other than i dont like the meatball spam since it doesnt feel or look good to play.
Im leveling a ele sham for the first time ever and im doing it in mop remix. Lava build is not fun lol
Your statements implies that you donât understand a lot of Elementalist workings so I find your takes hilarious. Again, a lot of peopleâs hatred of Pwave is that they donât know how to play the build properly.
- Youâve mixed up Lashing Flames and Hot Hands in your original statement making it completely nonsensical.
- The only reason Hot Hands not procing would impact Pwave is that youâre just using it on CD and donât have it ready for when you may need it. Optimal play necessitates you holding abilities for a second or 2 depending on the nature of the fight, remaining CD on abilities, resources, and mechanics of the fight. You also will deviate from the standard priority of abilities youâd normally do to optimize funnel or cleave damage (Ex. Larodar and Mythic Kurog does not follow the standard opener). You can gamble on using it on CD in hopes of procs - which if it works out great but if it doesnât then it can impact your damage overall significantly or it simply ends up breaking even had you just held.
- Storm the only thing you may need to hold is just Doomwinds in case you get targeted by a mechanic requiring you to lose uptime (i.e. spawning tornados on Amagamtion Chamber, Infinite Durress on Sark). Popping Wolves and losing uptime isnât as bad since the MSW gen will ensure that you will have a 10 stack ready once you get back into melee to reset SS if needed.
- Youâre comparing apples and oranges trying to compare Elementalist to Storm and boiling Elementalist down to âpress lava lash and lightning boltâ .
- Yes procs and crit RNG will play a large part into the overall damage output of both Storm and Elementalist, but bad play and not understand how to adjust to those procs (or lack there of) will be more of an impact on Elementalist build. You could get a crazy amount of Hot Hands procs but if youâre scuffing your abilities youâre weaving (read: not spamming) in between each LL youâve reduced whatever benefit you got from all those procs. Whereas with Storm the only way youâre scuffing procs (i.e. DRE) is if youâre not pressing Stormstrike when its up.
Keep in mind I love the idea of having 2 builds to play based on fight types in raids. I also liked in season 1 where you could play a bunch of different talent setups (class and spec tree) to better account for the fight and what your raid team needs. But the current way Storm is just awful to play and hated a large portion of Season 2 anytime I had to play Storm. Besides brainless SS spam that is way the hell more punishing with losing uptime. Elementalist does suffer from that but you have ways if youâre quick enough/intuitive enough to mitigate the loss of uptime by playing around with CDs and what not. Something needs to change with Storm build. Brom cooked up something that would be awesome:
PvE perspective I would love something like that over DRE. It would still keep the skillfloor lower than Elementalist which is a big reason why people like the build (not necessarily a bad thing BTW). Maybe it could proc Doomwinds for full duration but reduced effectiveness or proc it for a shorter duration but at full power. That would be amazing for Storm M+ builds: Playing into our target cap (and buffing it) BUT allowing us to do some meaningful mass AoE.
Cant say i agree. The moment DRE procs you get stunned and cant play or the moment u pop doomwinds u get disarmed lol maybe thats just me tho. I climed 2100 with ele build couldnt do it with storm it felt uncomfortable and weak
Bring chain harvest back, that was the best ability ever in SL. Made enhancement shamans feel very dangerous with an instant high damage/healing ability. Plus the animation of it was much better than pwaveâs. Chain harvest should also spread flame shock on all your targets.
That said, pwave is still a good ability used correctly, and I do like the haste buff. I think itâs necessary for shaman to continue to get out good dps pretty much every 30 seconds (if you get your wolves out).
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I mean for enhancement stormstrike build. Feels bad in arena/solo shuffle/3s and 2s at least to me
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sure buddyâŚ
Iâm sorry for this, but i do not play the game in english so it is always hard try to get a consensus which skill people talks about when everyone uses abbreviations for everything.
Yeah, when people voted for the most brain dead tier set that was s3 just to take more shots on Pwave when they did have the chance to vote s1 and make variety of that sick ârotationâ
wth? doomwinds 1:30 cd (no GCD), that lasts 8 miserable seconds so u get another round in 1 min or so⌠how can u burst an entire tyranical boss in high keys(+10 and so on) ? or even better a 6 minutes raid boss to just have 2~3 rounds where u varely can move.
not gonna keep quoting⌠i made my point up there.
People just love elementalist bc of tier set gives a buff and a âsenseâ to use that awful talent pwave imo.
Now talking back to the post a lot of ppl got bored bc:
- they got a whole year of no class/spec changes just the same tier bonus.
- zero balance changes
- they (blizz) give a buff to resto then one week later two nerfs smash on the spec
- elemental is a joke right now
- button bloat
- everything shaman does another class does better
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S1 is the most useless set bonus because Elemenetal Assault is straightup better version of S1 set bonus. Elemental Assault is one of our best talents in a whole tree. We are already swimming MSW and we donât need more MSW. Current Elementalist would still blow storm out with S2 set bonus and we wouldnât play storm with S2 or S3 set bonus. S2 still had a cringe playstyle aka sundering on damage cooldown and chain lightning in ST. We all voted S3 because itâs the best and fun playstyle, I voted for S3 immediately without any thought and ignored everything.
Pwave is the most defined build for Enhancement Shaman and we are the most important specs for raid because of Pwave and WFT. Our damage profile without Pwave would be awful, we wonât have significant specs for raid spots and M+ without Pwave. Many people would rather play elementalist build for 2 years than storm with DRE for day. I strongly believe that DRE should be completely deleted from the game and you canât fix storm as long as Talent Tree has DRE.
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I know how to play the build properly, and i still hate it. Thematically pwave doesnt work imo.
But thats because im a staunch lightning person. I rerolled shaman back in vanilla the moment i seen a lightning toolkit, and played war/sham since.
I also hate current storm builds smash 1 button and pray to rngesus.
I liked when windfury damage and lightning was our primary damage. Im old