SAG-AFTRA board wants gaming industry including Activision-Blizzard to go on strike

So… Activision-Blizzard is on this list

What could this mean for the future of DF/11.0

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SAG and AFTRA wanting something doesn’t mean ATVI will do it.

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uhhh…okay. What a horrible thing to say.

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Given the sheer amount of greed on both sides of the strike… neither side gets a cookie.

:cookie:

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Yes.

/10chr

It’s not about greed. This isn’t simply a “pay me more” issue. This is the industry using people in other shows, movies and commercials, etc (including NSFW media) as background assets, digitally rendered in, without their consent or knowledge or compensation. Same with voice acting, as well.

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Why? The guy who played Robin Hood in Once Upon A Time liked and responded to one of my tweets.

It’s not Stephen King, but I’ll take it.

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Maybe if they made actual good things people would care about their strike.

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I care. Why wouldn’t I?

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if they participate… id have a slightly higher opinion of acti blizz as a company.

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The ironic thing is it might actually benefit ActiBlizz in the long run, though :frowning:

Let’s say gaming is unionized like these other industries - there’s a good chance it ends up being organized on the same lines as film.

Here’s the fun part. To my understanding, the union system basically makes film a closed industry (the fact that some of the unions are literally called Guilds is telling, just like trade guilds of olden times). To be able to participate in a union project, you must join the union - but - to my understanding, you can’t join these unions without showing that you participate in the industry.

Chicken and egg, completely unlike the union at your local grocery store where you just fill out the union initiation papers as just another part of hiring. Which means entry into the career is basically on a de facto invite only basis.

Now let’s look at how this could impact gaming. In film, far as I’ve gathered, much of the distribution apparatus has agreed that they will only touch movies that are fully union produced. Imagine gaming doing the same, Steam, Epic etc. agreeing to only distribute union-produced games. Goodbye indie games overnight, hello basically all you get is AAA.

Like practically every other regulation of industry abuse, the winners end up being the giant industry abusers themselves, who simply adjust their business slightly (and usually with little benefit for the folks they were taking advantage of, at that) while everyone else gets pushed out of the industry because it’s either impossible or uneconomical to comply.

Sure, indie devs could just distribute their files on their own sites, but how’s that likely working in today’s world where everyone is paranoid about data-destroying and account-stealing malware and “try my new game!” has been a standard malware bait on platforms like Discord for years? :frowning:

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Yeah blazzard wont go on strike when you have people paying a monthly subscription fee for them to develope their game. They practically did that in shadowlands from 9.0 to 9.1 without being conncected to a social cause and it near killed the game. Also the hubris of actors to think the common working person should care about their plight when hollywood has been releasing nothing but slop for the past 13 years is tiresome.

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That’s what you’re hearing from the SAG PR machine. That was never brought up by the AMPTP in negotiations as something the studios were asking for.

Yes, it’s a legitimate concern and should be addressed at some point. But at the same point in time it wasn’t on the table. What was a sticking point was some of their residual demands (yes, I agree they need to be paid more for residuals but not what they were asking for).

I also think SAG needs to rework the residual structure to make sure more of the residuals go to the day players and guest stars for TV shows and not just the series regulars.

:cookie:

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what are you planning to do for fun?

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Says no side gets a cookie, then posts a cookie, LOL.

/SMH

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That cookie was for you! And other nice people here.

:cookie:

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The voice actors are the single least important part of any video game.
Literally below whoever textures the inside of the polygons.

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that’s great. what about all the other people you mentioned?

SAG-AFTRA board wants gaming industry including Activision-Blizzard to go on strike

Both sides have to consider the words from the Great British philosopher Mick Jagger:
“You can’t always get what you want,
but if you try some times,
you find,
you get what you need”.

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This is getting really funny, and I’m part of the To Hell With Them Both gang. Perhaps the writers guild would have had the leverage they needed if they didn’t gatekeep the industry so hard.

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