Is safespotting allowed or not? I’m guessing it’s allowed based on the lack of bans on people that do so daily in darkshire camping lowbies all day. He’s been doing so for months and yet no action has been taken against him.
If it’s in a spot that prevents guards from reaching you in areas where guards normally attack, no, it is not allowed.
Then why hasn’t this dude been banned by now, I ran into this guy doing this a couple months ago when leveling an alt through here, reported him. Now I’m coming back through on another alt and he’s still here doing the same thing.
He pays a sub. Blizzard pretty much just suspends accounts because after the suspension is up, they like to think that they will resub
It’s allowed
Just because people are attacking you and the guards aren’t responding does not mean they are safespotting. Safespotting is described as using terrain or other things to make it so that guards cannot path to you if agroed. However, those last two words are very important. What level are the guards in Darkshire? 30-40, maybe? The agro radius for a Level 60 on those guys is going to be tiny as hell.
Basically, if they are attacking you from outside the radius where the guards agro to them, that is different from safespotting, being no different from me, say, riding through Burning Steppes and avoiding enemies by staying out of agro range.
Bud, first off it’s a mix of guard levels, the highest being 55. Second if my pet can’t path to him, it means the guards can’t either. Period.
There is a building in Darkshire that you can get on the roof from the flight path. The guards can’t get up there though. Even if they did aggro on them they wouldn’t be able to actually attack them.
There’s actually multiple. There’s the one next to FP, there’s the one next to the blacksmith, then there’s the actual blacksmith. All of which have no path available for pets or guards. There’s also a way on top of the inn.
Yes, but is the guard within aggro radius? That’s the question. You can attack players from places that pets can’t get to just fine. The key question is whether the player attacking is within the aggro radius of a guard. If they draw aggro and the guards can’t attack, that’s safespotting. If they are positioned so that they don’t draw aggro, it is not.
I mean he’s definitely drawing guard aggro when he chain lightnings the guards and kills the guards from the roof top…
Can you provide a link showing thats how blizzard defines safespotting? I’m pretty sure if a guard can’t get to them even if they are outside the aggro radius its considered safe spotting. A GM once told Nixxiom to get off of a building for safespotting.
I was under the impression safe spotting was where a guard can’t get to you regardless if they can actually aggro on you or not.
No, he can’t, because his definition is made up.
Specifically to answer this …
Blizzard takes actions, but they’re (1) reactive to player reports and (2) penalized on a gradient scale.
The first means that yes, you reported the once, and Blizzard got that report and investigated. However, if not many people report, they may only have a very few reports of it being done by that player.
The second means that after the first report, they may have given the player a warning. If the player continued and was reported again, they might have given them a short suspension or done something else to stop it in the moment.
Some players find it worth the penalties they get for what they consider the fun they get out of it, and since they’re not always reported, they don’t get penalties every time they do it.
EDIT to add this from CS forum:
Assuming that he did not kill the guard immediately, or within a couple seconds (since I’ve noticed mobs sometimes let me get a Shadowbolt, Immolate, and Corruption off before they realize I’m hitting them), then that would be safespotting. Dead guards can’t aggro, obviously.
“There has been some confusion in regards to whether or not the act of “rooftop camping”, or killing players while using geometry to avoid the town guards, is allowed. We will no longer condone this act in game. Players who participate in this method of PvP will be given a warning and educated on this new policy, and further action will be taken as circumstances warrant. We wish to provide a fair playing field to our customers, and this abuse of game mechanics has been hampering that effort.”
Caydiem
Assistant Community Manager
Using terrain geometry to avoid guards is safespotting. Staying out of their radius is not.
If that’s the measure for a ban, then most instance farmers would get banned for exactly the same activity.
No it isn’t.
Players do this to farm instances, it’s exactly the same thing.
Is that a ban too now?
PVE vs PVP.
If I’m remembering right this was covered a long long time ago. Based on my memory the rules were if the mob evades that’s essentially the intention to prevent being able to safespot and still kill mobs. If you are able to safespot and kill mobs without them being able to evade you, that is when it is considered exploiting and is bannable.