S4 Elite PVP Set - Not Updated to Reflect Winning Tier

Elite PVP sets are not tier sets. You cannot buy them and you cannot catalyze them. They are transmog appearances that were advertised to be limited time only.

Apparently they also chose not to include the PVP community in season 4 either.

Which also is great, them forgetting to not reset MMR means a bunch of people who couldn’t get S3 sets will get it in this inflated season.

One could argue that this inflates the acquisition of S3 elites and devalues them, but tbh I am fine with that, I got so many of them completed this expansion, I had all the recolors I wanted too.

We need a statement still.

This is what is bugging me.

I am paying a yearly sub, prob have like two years paid in advance since I enjoy this game so much, and engage in referral programs - so a lot of free months from that too… I am not going to threaten to quit, at this stage I’m a lifestyle player but I still seek quality and coherence in communication.

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You could buy them through 3 seasons with the mark of ___ mastery.

Currently this season this does not function, which devalues the 1600 achievement for more casual players.

If those casuals don’t hit 1600 they won’t push to 1800 and attempt duelist - If we disrupt the food chain everyone loses.

Not only that, but a really big weird issue happened with the mark of mastery trade.

On pvp vendor i can buy the S03 stuff, same color, same stuff.

On the mastery vendor i see the pve S01/04 H tier set to trade the 2k io/1600 rating item.

But when i check the pvp tier, it’s a purple version of the S01 pvp baseline set. It’s not the Elite version.

So hunters get a really buggy mixed up version between pvp and pve (as any class that didn’t get the s03 look voted again).

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A SINGLE piece, not the entire set. You had to unlock the entire set through an achievement because it’s not an actual set but a transmog cosmetic.

What?

What?

Sorry, I just have no idea what you’re saying.

I think he is referring to the fact that the PvP rewards system needs people playing at the bottom ranks so that there is enough CR/MMR available to get to the high ranks. The less people play, the harder it is to get the rewards

Which isn’t a large issue for Microsoft/blizzard, they know the people who get these achievements will get them either way, but the difference in a higher player base is 10 min queues in ss vs 40 m queues in ss.

It is absurd S3 ended with Cdew’s healers struggling to get to 2100

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Updating to reinforce my prior sentiments earlier in the thread.

I was elite/glad s1 & s2 DF but did not get the elite set on every class.

This means I got the item upon hitting 2.4k (forgot what the mythic equivalent is, 2k score or something) which unlocks account-wide elite effects for all colors of the tier set for that season.

I bought conquest pieces on my evoker today and used the catalyst to change them to tier. I received the normal AND elite effect for the base color. I believe this would also apply if I catalyzed any of the base PvE colors - I would get both appearances for each color.

This leads me to continue believe that this was more of an oversight vs. intentional. I don’t think it makes a ton sense to deliberately make it so you can get the elite appearance for the base set colors from the previous seasons but not the elite color.

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I also wonder if they thought about the liability of recommending people using Wowhead in place of support routes. Developers and customer support alike instead of giving direct solutions, will link Wowhead articles, which is from a third party.

Wowhead was the entity that put Elite PvP gear on the article regarding tier and transmog votes. People have come out saying they bought boosts and subscriptions just because of this vote.

Not saying anyone would take legal action because it’s just an online asset, but I’m sure there is someone out there crazy enough to pursue legal action over something like this. And Blizz/Microsoft has already been under scrutiny with the FTC… Just saying they need to think about doing something like this again and better make sure they have all the specifics in writing.

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There is no liability, and it wouldn’t be on Blizzard if there was. Wowhead is a seperate entity, which made an incorrect assumption.

Did you not read my whole statement? If customer support and devs tells players to go on Wowhead (which is a third party) for game information (which they have) and the third party is giving out incorrect advice, then it’s a liability to Blizzard as a company. Especially when people use that information to make purchases. Can put Blizzard in a bad position if they go under litigation again by the FTC.

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no news from blizz?

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Customer support has not told me at all the same that they have told you. I have had two responses since Gripthisd made the comment. All I have been told is:

“Please note that Game Master cannot comment or make statements about the voting system that took place. As advised before, please submit your feedback in one of two places” along with them apologizing and making multiple comments about thanking me for being a veteran player…which is getting pretty old.

and then proceeds to suggest the feedback options such as the forums, bug reports, and submit feedback options. :dracthyr_shrug:

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Shouldn’t have ever been able to buy elite pieces with the 1600 token.

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Thank you for sharing your response. I think one user put it succinctly that the implementation of it all seems like an oversight. It feels wonky.

Anyone who gets ticket responses: Would you kindly copy and paste the text along with the way you asked the question? Wording is important and I want to make sure if there is finality, that it is depicted with very straightforward questioning.

Fingers crossed for any direct, assertive answer. I have earned elite sets in multiple seasons so one being available does not ‘hurt’ me. This is not a self-serving issue of ‘I want my season [whatever] to be rarer’ or something. Just to make it clear.

My issue is lack of clarity from official posts, the appearance poll or its description having zero verbiage about PVP exclusion, and another instance where PVPers do not feel seen or heard with such silence.

(Happy Caturday, friends! :tiger2:)

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Also, this is an interesting point. There are direct links to Wowhead to help players on the site, and CS provides Wowhead links to supplement in support responses. My post was addressing Blizzard directly as an organisation in the handling of this, but the Wowhead component pointed out is another layer to this confusion.

For folks not aware: Wowhead posted the winning appearance in its elite colorization following the official results. That, paired with no information provided by Blizzard to suggest PVP was excluded from appearances, is what is throwing individuals off, including Wowhead.

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Except that would mean “preserving the elite look” for only 1 out of 3 seasons. Think.

Well, they didn’t fix that since S1 DF - I don’t think that was a bug. If it were, would’ve liked a blue to comment on it.

As a casual pvper this hurts me Kennie, but you are indeed right

They have never done it, however, bringing back this stuff would absolutely 100 percent bring in more participation this season (or any season in the future for that matter)

Like maybe allow players to use vicious saddles to purchase a set if they reach a certain rating? 2100? idk? Anything is better than nothing my man