Hi there. This chip was launched DIY now and was considering getting a system made with one of these and adding in a GPU later.
Any thoughts on which one? They are all similar in price with the 5600g being the lowest however the other ones don’t seem to be all that much more within a few hundred bucks. (5700g, 5800g)
Any thoughts on what’s going to be the best bang for the buck? I only really play Wow and Sea of Thieves atm but who knows going forward.
Thanks
Best bang for the buck is going to be the 5600G for WoW. While the 5700G is only $100 more, that’s ~35% more expensive for not ~35% more performance in gaming with or without a discrete GPU.
You also have to consider all of the G chips only ship with the Wraith Stealth, which is a pretty bad cooler. You’ll want to spend at least $60 on something decent like a Scythe Fuma 2. That brings the overall expense increase from the 5700G lower, to only about ~31% more expensive. Still a big bump for not much gain, and you could redirect that $100 to a 1tb NVME SSD instead.
That said, if it were me, I’d get the 5700G because I won’t buy a 6 core in 2021 for a main gaming system, and the 5700G would last a little longer, stretch its legs a little better with a discrete GPU, and offer you more growth if you should decide to dabble in other applications that can benefit from CPU cores.
In addition to what was said above, I’d get the 5700G if the increase isn’t too big of a deal for you. The 5700g is only marginally better GPU wise, but sometimes that little bit can make the difference between playable and unplayable. The GPU isn’t exactly strong in the first place, so the little differences are more noticeable when actually using them than just performance graphs. It may be able to tide you over longer until the GPU market becomes more stable.
Make sure you get decent memory though.
Thanks guys to be clear the ryzen 5700g is a ryzen 7, not a 5 right ?
Also would a 500-550 Power Supply be decent enough ??
Thanks!
Ryzen 5 5600g = 6 core/12 thread chip, 4.4ghz boost, 7 Compute Unit Graphics @ 1900mhz
https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-5600g
Ryzen 7 5700g = 8 core/16 thread chip, 4.6ghz boost, 8 Compute Unit Graphics @ 2000mhz
https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-5700g
The PSU would be enough if it is a quality unit. Check this list:
But keep in mind the graphics family on these are Vega, which is a couple generations old at this point.
Vega → RDNA (5000 series GPU) → RDNA2 (present 6000 series)
It won’t be too satisfactory in modern games, and you’ll undoubtedly have to lower settings and resolution to get acceptable framerates.
There’s a promo for it right now too
If you’re into that Warframe game though
On a side note…this is the first time I’ve actually seen a 3300X in the wild.
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3300x-ryzen-3-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113648
By the time it finally became available, it was already obsolete lol
What you guys think about a build like this ?
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (8 Cores/ 16 Threads) |
|---|---|
| CPU Cooler | Noctua L9a-AM4 (37mm, Classic Brown) |
| GPU | AMD Radeon Vega 8 Integrated Graphics |
| MOBO | GIGABYTE GA-A520I-AC (With Wi-Fi & Bluetooth) |
| RAM | PNY XLR8 RGB 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 |
| NVMe SSD | PNY XLR8 CS3030 256GB M.2 NVMe (Gen 3) |
| HDD | Seagate Barracuda 2.5" 1TB 5400 RPM (ST1000LM048) |
| PSU | FSP FlexGURU PRO 500W 80+ Gold 90% Efficiency |
| Case | SGPC K39 ITX (4.6 Liters) (Silver / Red) |
I think you’ll regret going with a mini-ITX that uses such a small type of power supply with limited room for expansion.
You can still do a small mini-ITX that uses SFX standard, which opens you up a lot more.
I guess I wouldn’t mind being able to carry it around? I was going to go with a coolermaster nr200 but this guy I am working with to get the parts recommended that case instead since it’s “backpackable”.
Think I can get an nr200 on a plane carry on as i will move countries and want to keep my system. I don’t really know if I will do much other than perhaps addon a basic GPU at some point.
Also let me know if you recommend that case also.
Optimum Tech is my go-to-guy for mini-ITX reviews.
Here is his review of that case you are looking at:
His best of:
Mini ITX is definitely interesting and cool, but it always comes with compromises. It’s just trying to straddle that line for yourself where you want to make them.
Keep in mind the 5700G will need some decent cooling as well, and it looks like that K39 is limited to a very small downdraft compact cooler. It’s not going to perform too well IMO, and you’d be better off dropping to the 5600G in that case. It also looks like low-profile RAM is a must.
If you aren’t ever going to upgrade beyond an entry-mid level GPU, then the case might be okay. Just remember that you’re going to be very limited on not only power, but cooling capacity as well when making GPU considerations.
Ok thanks. So the 5700g will run hotter. That cooler that he included the Noctua wouldn’t cut it ?
Also was wondering if the nr200 might be good enough to keep it going well and such. I doubt I will uprade it all that much but who knows.
Thanks a lot I really appreciate your insights 
It will work well enough to a point - remember Ryzen will boost opportunistically based on thermals; the better the cooling is, the more it will boost. The poorer the cooling solution is, the worse your performance will be.
You also have some heat from the iGPU that normal 5800x doesn’t have, so it might be more difficult to cool (although I know the 5800X is one CCD, whereas the 5700G I am not sure on).
If I were going on that small of a form factor I would definitely not put an 8 core in there.
I’d rather increase case size a tad bit that would allow at least a 120mm AIO, which would drastically improve over those tiny downdraft coolers. Most of the time 120mm AIOs aren’t really a good idea, but they are perfect for mini ITX applications.
Ok thanks. The Nr200 seems to support that can perhaps switch to that. Just worried about being able to take it on my 20 hour plane ride in a few months haha
I’d be worried about the plane ride regardless lol…maybe better to buy locally when you arrive at the new country you will be living?
Or is part of the goal to get hardware here due to limited access wherever you’re going?
If you are going to be living in a small living space, perhaps a laptop might actually be a better choice.
Well if it’s carry shouldn’t be a big deal no? I just don’t like cleaning most laptops and such easier to do on a desktop. I need something now as my current computer is about to blow up and the GPU is damaged.
Otherwise would wait but will end up without a computer soon I imagine.
If it were me and I had to choose between a decent laptop and a very limited mini-ITX I’d probably get the laptop myself.
I get the appeal of mini-ITX, but every time I theory craft myself into getting one I get turned off by all the downsides, or just end up upsizing to the point where it’s a jumbo-ITX. Then you tell yourself that it just makes more sense to build a mid tower.
Cleaning a laptop isn’t too bad; and if you are using a small enough mini-ITX it might not really even be that much easier.
I would feel weird about carryon with a mini-ITX system or anything else really on carry on…they’re still pretty fragile compared to laptops which are designed to put up with at least some amount of abuse.
A decent gaming laptop will also perform quite a bit better in games than the 5600G/5700G.
And you skip the “GPU where art thou” quest everyone else is on.
Any suggestions for an easy to clean laptop?I think you might have been the one who told me about some that have removable components?
Anyway thanks for spending time helping me