Ruining pvp for casters

Not concerned w/ locks

A lot of them are, outside of some clearly over-tuned passives/abilities some specs have, balance is pretty close.

The only real outliers that seem over-tuned relative to everything else imo is DH>>Preservation evoker>>>>>>Demo/affliction/shadowpriest/DK

yeah id put will of the necropolis as a standalone just after pres but all of those specs for sure need tuning to be brought in line

Why do people on the forum keep putting demo up there when it has 0 ways to burst?

Exactly, and if they did that they’d quickly realize they still somehow die to casters and do not exceed the ratings they achieved playing their caster.

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Do you just not like it, or do you legitimately think it’s not good? Demo felt really strong to me on beta. It’s layered damage profile, cc, ms, and defensives keep it strong imo even if tyrant isn’t pumping as hard (it still seemed like a powerful cd though). Could fall off if the bug still exists where precog immunes axe toss unless casting.

Just saying it’s not op if it doesn’t even have a one shot. It has sustain damage but that can be healed through easily.

Casters complain about melee and melee complain about casters. Round and rounf we go

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this game needs more AOE CC

more bubbles/blocks

more zug zug 1 shots

less interesting and complex playstyles

I don’t think this is a fair statement to make considering that you actually don’t need a one shot to secure games if you’re compensated really well in other categories.

It has arguably the best control in the caster pool right now paired with the fact that it is exceptionally tanky. There’s a good reason why it’s deemed as a S tier spec thus far.

Also with the damp changes, I think this benefits demo since it is the only caster spec out there with a very consistent MS uptime, so it would probably be one of the hardest caster to heal against when sustained damage is quite threatening.

All of that wall of text for nothing…. Locks don’t even have to move they can still there dark pack and heal to full…… oh wait they also have tons of mobility and cc

thats logic, dont use that here !

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Last Expac before free to play on Xbox

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The best part is that DH/War/Rogue/Feral seem to really hunt Mages hard… I had a War earlier tonight that was so entitled that he chased me down until he died… He could have turned around and smoked the other person nuking him because I was just running…instead he kept trying to get to me while being chunked from the back.

Rogues and Druids always pop on my Mage…they will take the long way round and miss half the fight just to get an opener on the Mage…

At this point I really think some of these classes have become so used to killing Mages in a couple shots that they somehow feel cheated if you survive…

I play Arcane and can pump some serious hurt if left alone (Which is almost never) but when I do DHs in particular just tank it all… Class balance is terrible 411 on 411 Ilvl doesn’t matter at all its the classes not “the gear”.

They need to take some heavy balance passes on PvP like quick.

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warriors have been suffering under the yoke of mages since launch i run you guys down too

this one should be easy, reduce all insta cc to to 10 yards, no more slow resistence, 15/20 yards gap closer, u get to keep your dmgs and your defensive but not the healing, cut an extra charge from mobility like, why u need 2 shadowsteps , and 2 rolls? or increse their cd in 10-15sec

if thats way to complicated well heres the other solucion, if i get 2 or 3 cast out u are dead simple, no exucese to let me cast more than onces.

another solution would be, melees become really squishy, like u keep all your cc and DBZ mobility all k but if u over step or go to deep u are dead.

the last one its giving caster more tools to deal with them but that just gonna scale the arm race

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the DF pvp tier list has 4+ casters in S tier

Spriest, Demo, arcane mage and aff

I dont think any melee were S tier besides DH

THE tier list???

pack it up everyone

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both shaman specs A tier

get your drivers checked

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