Holy s***, I literally lost it when I finish reading this line! LMAO!!! 
Now everytime I see Thrall smiling at Jaina I think of this! 
Darn, I crying here laughing… worst part it’s true, I know it’s not a joke but man well put feedback, s*** can’t stop laughing! lol 
I love this communities sassy, snarky and plain way to express themselves! lol
I enjoy so much the read on some of these post whether I agree or not… oh god this made my day… Usually I tend to stay middle peace man getting hits on both sides of an argument but sometimes I got to just say: “I guess you made a good point!” 
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That’s what happens when Horde is a council instead of having a Warchief keeping everyone in line. Unfortunately, after Sylvanas left the only reasonable choice left was Baine, and every horde player hated baine.
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Ugh I hate the Horde council. Bring back the Warchief title.
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Baine’s little sidequest romp in the Ohn’ahran Plains was one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve seen in a bit. I still have zero clue what purpose it served.
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Try and give him at least one major questline where he actually acts like a Horde character for once. They messed up with Baine so thoroughly that it obviously wasn’t enough to wash off the ten years of him being an awful quizling that was simultaneously angry at the Horde’s aggression, yet too cowardly to do anything about it under both Garrosh and Sylvanas.
Compared to Cairne who immediately tried to set things right.
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But it didn’t even do that. They dredge up Bovan Windtotem out of the WC3 hat, arbitrarily kill him off (because it’s not content if more Horde names aren’t being scratched out), then depict Baine as a raging racist simpleton who nearly gets himself killed by some centaur trash mobs.
And none of it seems to have served any purpose.
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It gave Tauren a totem weapon. So that’s at least one purpose.
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Circling back to this, I think what bothers me is that it could have simply been a mix of cosmic elements explaining it away. Fel zombies, void zombies, etc. wouldn’t really make me bat an eyelid with the understanding that it was a mixing. Fire + Fel = Felfire.
Calia’s interaction with the Margrave seemed to imply that everything can be Necromancy, though, which is doodoo. Doubtful it will come up, but I hope that can be walked back a bit and pivot into Light + Death instead.
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Necromancy is literally just “magically conjuring and reanimating the dead.”. Just like pyromancy is conjuring fire, hydromancy is conjuring water, etc. irrespective of whether a mage, shaman, warlock or any other type of practitioner is the one doing it
All of the “-mancy” terminology is framing what you’re doing with the magic, not the source and “flavor” of the energies involved . That’s why necromancy was already forbidden by Dalaran before the coming of the Scourge, back when it was just occasional mages using the arcane to break rules and mess around with the dead. Not sure why it was assumed that necromancy was the only “special” case in which the term meant the entirety of one cosmic force to the exclusion of all the rest.
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Because it is always wrapped up in Death, until SL practically recontextualized it as animancy. And as mentioned above, if Death/Undeath are not the realm of … Death magic, then you have basically said there is no Death magic
None of these forces exist and operate in a vacuum. Why would Death be the only one that does?
Strictly speaking, undeath isn’t even death. It’s and incomplete reversal of it.
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Not really. We’ve seen orcs in Shadowmoon Valley during WoD use the void to raise the dead.
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Even shamans summon and commune with the dead.
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And Fel, and Arcane, and Light. The issue isn’t that you can use Other Magic + Death to do a Necromancy, but that you can apparently do a Necromancy without Death. If there are supposed to be six distinct seats at the high table, one of them is (suddenly) conspicuously indistinct.
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Again, not really. Not when all of the cosmic forces are capable of it
“If all forces can do what Death does, Death becomes indistinct.”
“No, because all forces can do what Death does.”
Wow. Compelling argument.
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Well no, all it means is that Death is involved. All six forces are coterminous within reality. All six magics can be used to manipulate each other if you know how.
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It’s not an argument. It’s the lore.
Big difference
I feel like Al Swearengen lecturing Farnum.
Watching people regurgitate what I said back at me in different words like it is a profound argument is wild.
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